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    Default Do you need to remove the lid to replace top case strut? 2020 RTL

    I ordered a new gas strut for my 2020 RTL. I took the backrest off but haven’t been able to find a video that explains how to get the old one out. Do you need to take the lid off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingz View Post
    I ordered a new gas strut for my 2020 RTL. I took the backrest off but haven’t been able to find a video that explains how to get the old one out. Do you need to take the lid off?
    No need to remove lid. Remove passengers back rest, pop bottom strut off of ball pin, (using a pick or very small screwdriver), that allows the lid to raise up high enough to get bolt out of the top of the strut. "sorry no video" Bill
    Note: This is for the 2020RTL,
    I did Not remove the passengers seat to do this procedure . Only the back-rest.
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    I just had my dealer replace the top case and driver seat struts under warranty. I heard there was a bad batch of them installed on the 2020 RTL's.
    No top case rack either. When I made the appointment, they said it's because of the rack. No rack installed so it was covered. I did buy the extended warranty, so it was included.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    Wrong Year, He has a 2020 model, Everything is different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick28 View Post
    Wrong Year, He has a 2020 model, Everything is different.
    Yes, that’s one of the major causes of confusion on the site, Rick. Posters not including the model and year of the Spyder which is having the problem, and responders not ensuring that their advice matches the OP’s model and year, if it is included. Very frustrating

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    Just looked at mine.
    It is easy to replace. Take the two torque screws out of the back of the opened top case and pull the rear seat out then the rear back rest lifts off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peteoz View Post
    Yes, that’s one of the major causes of confusion on the site, Rick. Posters not including the model and year of the Spyder which is having the problem, and responders not ensuring that their advice matches the OP’s model and year, if it is included. Very frustrating

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peteoz View Post
    Yes, that’s one of the major causes of confusion on the site, Rick. Posters not including the model and year of the Spyder which is having the problem, and responders not ensuring that their advice matches the OP’s model and year, if it is included. Very frustrating
    Peter (Aawen) may have done his thing to expand the title a bit, but the OP clearly posted in his first sentence.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kingz View Post
    I ordered a new gas strut for my 2020 RTL. I took the backrest off but haven’t been able to find a video that explains how to get the old one out. Do you need to take the lid off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve W. View Post
    Peter (Aawen) may have done his thing to expand the title a bit, but the OP clearly posted in his first sentence.
    And I put '2020 RTL' in the title too

    That said, it does seem that many readers do really only remember the very last sentence they just read; just like some car drivers can remember the color & make of the last car that passed them going the opposite way, but they simply don't see the well lit up & quite large oncoming Spyder that they just turned across in front of or pulled out into the way of!!

    So some have situational blindness issues; others have specific detail &/or sentence retention/comprehension issues; some of us even have growing gaps of 'forgettory' holes blasted into our otherwise wonderful memories of a lifetime; but that's just the way it is - just like there's no denying that your year/model Spyder/Ryker info is a whole lot more visible and a lot easier for readers to see/remember while replying to questions if each member adds that info to their sig line as requested in the Sticky at the top of the Spyder General Discussion section & also linked below:

    https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...ssed-On-To-All


    Just in this thread, you can clearly see how easy it is to find that year/model info for me, Steve, Pete, Skip, Rick, Mikey, DT5534, & Knizar - cos it's all there at the bottom of each post we ever make, nice & easy for all/any reader to see.... Yeah orright, Pete & Skip may've gone juuust a little overboard & listed everything they've ever done/added to their Spyders too but it's still pretty easy to see what year/model Spyder/Ryker they have!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve W. View Post
    Peter (Aawen) may have done his thing to expand the title a bit, but the OP clearly posted in his first sentence.
    You have misread my post, Steve. I was not for one second claiming that Kingz did not put his model in the heading, just a generalisation that many people don’t, which creates misinformation, as does those who don’t verify that the info they are providing is for the relevant model user.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Aawen View Post
    Yeah orright, Pete & Skip may've gone juuust a little overboard & listed everything they've ever done/added to their Spyders too but it's still pretty easy to see what year/model Spyder/Ryker they have!
    Mine is done for a reason though, Peter. I have limited my list to only include the mods which apply to big and tall riders, not everything I have ever done. I have had several tall/big riders contact me for further discussion on how those mods may affect them after seeing them on my signature. There is no way I would include any other incidental mods. I am happy to remove the list if you believe I have gone overboard, but it would be removing a resource that may be of value to those riders who don’t fit the stock rider size mould

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peteoz View Post
    Mine is done for a reason though, Peter. I have limited my list to only include the mods which apply to big and tall riders, not everything I have ever done. I have had several tall/big riders contact me for further discussion on how those mods may affect them after seeing them on my signature. There is no way I would include any other incidental mods. I am happy to remove the list if you believe I have gone overboard, but it would be removing a resource that may be of value to those riders who don’t fit the stock rider size mould

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    Wow. And I thought it was a simple question. Looks like I got one legit reply.

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    It was an easy question. Problem is that a lot of people on forums don't read the complete question or articles. I misread or didn't read a similar article on here about the same problem. The 2020 and later truck strut is different than the earlier models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knizar View Post
    No need to remove lid. Remove passengers back rest, pop bottom strut off of ball pin, (using a pick or very small screwdriver), that allows the lid to raise up high enough to get bolt out of the top of the strut. "sorry no video" Bill
    Note: This is for the 2020RTL,
    I did Not remove the passengers seat to do this procedure . Only the back-rest.
    Hey that was easy. Didn’t realize that thing at the bottom was a spring clip. Thanks.

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