Anyone tried other spark plugs?

[sledge]

As I have said before, I am an old retired Mechanic... did it all my working life, no telling how many motor cycles I have owned. Way back in the 70's I bought my first 2 new motor cycles, and I have always been and still am my Own Mechanic. I never take anything in to have it worked on... but many years ago I learned that I didn't like NGK spark plugs... So, have any of you folks put anything like Champion spark plugs in your Spyder?? Or any other plugs for that matter???

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

many years ago I learned that I didn't like NGK spark plugs

What is it you don't like about NGK plugs? I ask because NGK is what Baja Ron sells and he is pretty fussy about what he sells. Also, I don't recall seeing any posts here on the forum citing issues with the NGK plugs. So what do you know about them the rest of us don't?

[DGoebel]

IdahoMtnSpyder beat me to it, when I replaced my plugs on my '13 RTL, (Since I was replacing plug wires that were cracked) I bought the whole set of plugs and wires from Baja Ron and they were NGK's. Worked great!

[bigbadbrucie]

On ALL my bikes, I’ve always used OEM plugs, except once.... and the replacement did NOT work. Sorry, no help here.

[PMK]

Denso plugs in the Spyder, and the Tacoma.
Prefer Denso over NGK, but still have a few NGKs to use up in the moto trials bikes.

[cravenfun]

Factory plugs only in my many toys for no issues. Which is NGK in Rotax motors. NGK iridium's in my HD is they only deviation on factory plugs as OEM are just copper plugs.
Champs, only in my mowers or snowblowers, nothing else.

[larryd]

Bajaron had done some Spark Plug Testing on the 1330 RT's several years ago trying to come up with a better plug...He had several beta testers...

Hopefully Ron will see this post and follow up on his findings...

Or maybe someone can find the links???

larryd

[pegasus1300]

[hypurone]

Usually, those that have probs with NGK's is due to the heat range getting changed. And in the wrong direction.... NGK and some others have their range numbers run OPPOSITE of the norm....

[larryd]

Usually, those that have probs with NGK's is due to the heat range getting changed. And in the wrong direction.... NGK and some others have their range numbers run OPPOSITE of the norm....

I have a Cam-Am Outlander with 450 miles on the odometer and while trail riding it dropped a cylinder and continued missing...It has factory NGK plugs...When I went to my BRP dealer for the miss it was diagnosed with a bad spark plug...My dealer said he has seen many NGK plug failures in the past 2 years and he had no explanation as to why???

Turns out the ONLY spark plug option for the 850 Outlander was NGK...

My spark plug of choice is Denso...

larryd

[sledge]

What is it you don't like about NGK plugs? I ask because NGK is what Baja Ron sells and he is pretty fussy about what he sells. Also, I don't recall seeing any posts here on the forum citing issues with the NGK plugs. So what do you know about them the rest of us don't?

Well I have ridden since I was a kid, and almost every time I ever had spark plug problems with a bike I bought or traded for, they had NGK plugs in them.... I know some people love them, same as everything else, but not everyone does I'm sure. I was just asking if any of you folks ever tried any other kind of spark plugs. Thanks all .

[hypurone]

I have a Cam-Am Outlander with 450 miles on the odometer and while trail riding it dropped a cylinder and continued missing...It has factory NGK plugs...When I went to my BRP dealer for the miss it was diagnosed with a bad spark plug...My dealer said he has seen many NGK plug failures in the past 2 years and he had no explanation as to why???

Turns out the ONLY spark plug option for the 850 Outlander was NGK...

My spark plug of choice is Denso...

larryd

Yeah, I guess it can happen to anything/brand.... I have had nothing but STELLAR performance from them in everything I use them in. But hey, I have a set of Michelins that are causing a pull on my McLaren!

[PhilY]

+for Baja Ron's wires and NGK plugs. Work great!

[sledge]

+for Baja Ron's wires and NGK plugs. Work great!

I live about 15 miles from BajaRon's shop. They are super Folks, I have been there 3 times and they talked to me and treated me like professional business people, and for me that is all I ask for.

[SkipH]

Anyone have the part number iridium spark plugs for a 2021 1330 motor?

[sledge]

Anyone have the part number iridium spark plugs for a 2021 1330 motor?

I have no idea, but now that you asked ... I wonder what the number is for the 998cc eng, or are they the same as the 1330cc?? I take notes and put them in the back of my manual, just things that I want to remember.

[hypurone]

Anyone have the part number iridium spark plugs for a 2021 1330 motor?

NGK 4218 CR8EIX is what I put in mine...

[SkipH]

NGK 4218 CR8EIX is what I put in mine...

Thank you!

[pegasus1300]

So here we are at 19 posts and no one has any other suggestions yet for the OP for an alternate plug? I buy whatever Ron suggests so I am no help.

[PMK]

So here we are at 19 posts and no one has any other suggestions yet for the OP for an alternate plug? I buy whatever Ron suggests so I am no help.

My reply offered a different brand I prefer over NGK. Going back and rereading the original topic post, I took it to mean he was asking about other brands, not specific part numbers.

[troop]

Over the years, I found my past H-D and Buell ran just as well with NGK's over their H-D (Champion) OEM's. I remember a couple of Japanese bikes not running as well with Champion/Bosch as they did with OEM NGK. That said, with the PIA it is to change the plugs on a Spyder, I'll certainly stick with the OEM plug just for peace of mind..

[hypurone]

My reply offered a different brand I prefer over NGK. Going back and rereading the original topic post, I took it to mean he was asking about other brands, not specific part numbers.

No, but someone else did....

[larryd]

My experience...NGK have always been good...Denso U gap plugs have always been BETTER...MY reason why...Back in my younger days riding 2 stroke motorcycles and snowmobiles at a slow trail riding pace, when you'd finally have a long straight stretch that you could twist the throttle and wind it up it would take a while for it to clean out and rev up to the red line...AFTER installing Denso U gap plugs and the same riding conditions the wind up to the red line would be instantaneous...When Artic Cat was having plug fowling problems on some of their 2 stroke sleds several years ago using NGK plugs, Artic cat somehow convinced NGK to make a U gap plug for their sleds...But, the U gap was on the center electrode NOT the GROUND electrode like the DENSO's...This U gap fixed the plug fowling problem...AND THIS IS THE REASON I LIKE DENSO's BETTER...larryd

[pegasus1300]

so which Denso Plug are you using in your Spyder? Are they still called ND?

[larryd]

so which Denso Plug are you using in your Spyder? Are they still called ND?

My Spyder is just now due for a plug change...Should happen this winter, I live in PA so no winter riding for me...

I will cross reference the Spyder NGK number to the Denso U gap top of the line plug and get them...

When that happens I will follow up here...(if I remember)

larryd