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    Post Searching for LEDs for Tail/Brake lights - any ideas?

    Hello,
    I am searching LED-Bulbs for the Tail and Brake light.

    Do you have any proposals for me..??
    I had read that it is not possible to change to any kind of LED bulb, as maybe the Spyder wont start??

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    Hi germanspyderrider, I can tell about the Brake lights, but I'm not exactly sure which other lights you want to change to LED's?? Do you mean the Reversing lights (back up? - you EU fella's & us Ozzies have something completely different to everyone else back there! ) or just the tail light that lets everyone know where the back end of the Spyder is??

    There are LED's available with built in resistors so that you can use them in vehicles that are particularly voltage sensitive like our Spyders, hopefully someone will have an answer/source or part numbers for you - once we know exactly which lights you want to replace?
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    Hello,

    i mean the tail light - the brake light is the same bulb

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    Quote Originally Posted by germanspyderrider View Post
    Hello,

    i mean the tail light - the brake light is the same bulb

    Greetings from Germany
    Fixed - now I hope someone can help?!
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    I order 2 of these from Amazon for $22

    BAU15S LED Bulbs Amber Yellow 2800LM Turn Signal Built-in Load Resistors
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjinaz86323 View Post
    I order 2 of these from Amazon for $22

    BAU15S LED Bulbs Amber Yellow 2800LM Turn Signal Built-in Load Resistors
    Sorry - i need those with twin filament light bulb for tail and brakelight

    But anyway thank you for help

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    I am not sure what you saying. These work for both tail light and brake light.

    Quote Originally Posted by germanspyderrider View Post
    Sorry - i need those with twin filament light bulb or tail and brakelight

    But anyway thank you for help

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    Ok - we have other rules about lightning in Germany.

    You wrote a link for bulbs in amber - ours must be red..
    Did you understand me now?

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    Sorry, brainfart on my end.
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    He's looking for an LED equivalent to a dual filament bulb used in combination brake/running lights, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by germanspyderrider View Post
    Hello,
    I am searching LED-Bulbs for Back/Reverse(?) and Brake light.

    Do you have any proposals for me..??
    I had read that it is not possible to change to any kind of LED bulb, as maybe the Spyder wont start??

    Greetings from Germany
    What is the OEM incandescent bulb and base number?
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    I can´t find the OEM

    The specification (without LED) as analog bulb is 12V 21W/5W BAY15D

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    Quote Originally Posted by germanspyderrider View Post
    I can´t find the OEM

    The specification (without LED) as analog bulb is 12V 21W/5W BAY15D

    Greetings from Germany
    https://www.google.com/search?q=LED+...e-gws-wiz-serp

    https://www.amazon.com/HQRP-BAY15d-S...05002399&psc=1

    Is this any help?
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    Hello Pete,

    many thanks, but it is only half help.

    Our Spyders need bulbs (especially the brake light bulbs) that are canbus compatible.
    If we use the normal LED bulbs the Spyder will throw a code that causes it to run in Limp Home mode, because the canbus is thinking there's a broken brake light.

    Greetings from Germany
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    Quote Originally Posted by germanspyderrider View Post
    Hello Pete,

    many thanks, but it is only half help.

    Our Spyders need bulbs (especially the brake light bulbs) that are canbus compatible.
    If we use the normal LED bulbs the Spyder will throw a code that causes it to run in Limp Home mode, because the canbus is thinking there's a broken brake light.

    Greetings from Germany
    Maybe I can simplify this ...... All Spyders have bulb MODEL / TYPE numbers assigned to them ..... Like H-3 or 9005 ( theses are for headlights ) .... take the bulb out and use the number printed on the bulb to find it's LED equivalent ..... Make sure the LED's are Can-bus ready ..... good luck .... Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Maybe I can simplify this ...... All Spyders have bulb MODEL / TYPE numbers assigned to them ..... Like H-3 or 9005 ( theses are for headlights ) .... take the bulb out and use the number printed on the bulb to find it's LED equivalent ..... Make sure the LED's are Can-bus ready ..... good luck .... Mike
    That's what I did. I used the bulb designation and searched for LED equivalent. Further research may be needed to find ones that are Can-Bus ready.
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    Default Info on using LED bulbs on a Can-bus

    https://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/bl...ix-with-video/ i particularly like the straightforward explanation and solutions here.

    https://www.lazerlamps.com/blog/post...ith-can-wiring this is more of a generic explanation of can-bus systems, but is quite good I think

    https://www.digikey.com/en/articles/...n-of-can-buses this is more technical, for eggheads like me

    Amazon search for can-bus compatible bulbs https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Canbus+co...ref=nb_sb_noss

    Do any of these help?

    I know that some of the LED accessory lights used on Spyders have a small capacitor-looking device in the positive wire (for this reason I believe).
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    Ok - the project is killed..
    Thank you all

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    Quote Originally Posted by germanspyderrider View Post
    Ok - the project is killed..
    Thank you all

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    What does that mean?
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    That means the project ist died ...

    I was discouraged by the quality of some of the replies I received

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    Quote Originally Posted by germanspyderrider View Post
    That means the project ist died ...

    I was discouraged by the quality of some of the replies I received

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    Most of the replies seemed to be helpful. I will admit that I was a little confused at the beginning. Yes, things are a lot different here in the USA. Hopefully everyone can get on the same page and move forward. Please read the posts and see if they are helpful. Questions, just ask. Little Blue.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by germanspyderrider View Post
    That means the project ist died ...

    I was discouraged by the quality of some of the replies I received

    Greetings from Germany
    Some of us put considerable time and effort into trying to understand and solve your issue.
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