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    Question Spyder surgery - one less thing to remove for servicing!

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    One less thing to remove to change the oil filter. 5" hole saw and done. Yes, I removed the panel for drilling.

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    Well, that’s one way of doing it…..
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    Dang Lew, is gas so bad in NV that you have to change it out that often?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
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    One less thing to remove to change the oil filter. 5" hole saw and done. Yes, I removed the panel for drilling.

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    Holey moley! Fuel filter only needs replacing every 28k I think.
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    Funny, One of the guys who helped hold the panel( which is NOT visible when all the tupperwear is replaced) said that some people on Spyderlovers couldn't handle something that made life easier during an oil change. He was obviously correct. Cutting a hole in a useless panel to access the oil filter with out removing the panel just makes it that much easier each time when I change the oil and filter. But it's OK to drill a hole in the seat to add fuel??? I've done a number of DIY improvements to my but maybe it would be best if I just keep them to my local friends.

    Yes Pete, it is a big hole. No offense taken from you.
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    Lew. All that makes sense. Except that in your first post, you said that you did this in order to change the fuel filter, not oil filter. That’s why the initial reaction.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowbelt Spyder View Post
    Lew. All that makes sense. Except that in your first post, you said that you did this in order to change the fuel filter, not oil filter. That’s why the initial reaction.
    Well thanks and I'll fix my mistake........

    Ya couldn't reach the fuel filter through that small hole
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
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    Funny, One of the guys who helped hold the panel( which is NOT visible when all the tupperwear is replaced) said that some people on Spyderlovers couldn't handle something that made life easier during an oil change. He was obviously correct. Cutting a hole in a useless panel to access the oil filter with out removing the panel just makes it that much easier each time when I change the oil and filter. But it's OK to drill a hole in the seat to add fuel??? I've done a number of DIY improvements to my but maybe it would be best if I just keep them to my local friends.

    Yes Pete, it is a big hole. No offense taken from you.
    I too thought it was for accessing the fuel filter, which I think is only a 28k interval. Now it makes more sense, particularly if it's not visible.

    That panel looks different from mine, I think. I don't remember having to remove it to access the oil filter....Obviously it's been awhile since I had to access that area.

    BTW, the hole in the seat to access the fuel is definitely worth it I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
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    Funny, One of the guys who helped hold the panel( which is NOT visible when all the tupperwear is replaced) said that some people on Spyderlovers couldn't handle something that made life easier during an oil change. He was obviously correct. Cutting a hole in a useless panel to access the oil filter with out removing the panel just makes it that much easier each time when I change the oil and filter. But it's OK to drill a hole in the seat to add fuel??? I've done a number of DIY improvements to my but maybe it would be best if I just keep them to my local friends.

    Yes Pete, it is a big hole. No offense taken from you.
    What is this "useless panel" you speak of, Lew ??

    Mine doesn't have it, so your mod doesn't apply to me ........ although the guy who took the pic sure knows what the hell he was doing to compose such a lovely, yet informative, picture.

    BTW, good ride today. Thanks for giving me some of your DOT 4 brake fluid.
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    Good ryde, good lunch, good company, good DOT 4 brake fluid. I think the panel has a support built into the right side as it seemed structural. I didn't drill there. It may also be for noise reduction and/or heat shielding. My doesn't have a problem with either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
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    Good ryde, good lunch, good company, good DOT 4 brake fluid. I think the panel has a support built into the right side as it seemed structural. I didn't drill there. It may also be for noise reduction and/or heat shielding. My doesn't have a problem with either.
    I did this 2 yrs. ago and have not noticed any difference in heat in that area...... Mike

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    I don't have an RT but can appreciate the ingenuity. good job!
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    Hey Lou and Lew. The photographer did a highly commendable job. The wrench mechanic took superb care in locating and cutting the hole.
    That third guy just watched and learned from the experience of the pros.

    As many of the observers may note: You should be worried about changing the structural stability of the right side of the Spyder. Oh My...
    It could also void your warrantee. Ho Hum...

    Good work session this morning and fun ride following the work and lunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haze View Post
    Hey Lou and Lew. The photographer did a highly commendable job. The wrench mechanic took superb care in locating and cutting the hole.
    That third guy just watched and learned from the experience of the pros.

    As many of the observers may note: You should be worried about changing the structural stability of the right side of the Spyder. Oh My...
    It could also void your warrantee. Ho Hum...

    Good work session this morning and fun ride following the work and lunch.
    Cheers, David C.
    No, the third guy had enough courage (or craziness ........ you decide) to hold that panel while the wrench mechanic had a power tool in his hands capable of slicing your fingers clean off.

    As far as "pros", I'm still learning a great deal from you guys. That is why I look forward and enjoy these "tech sessions". It's also because it beats doing yard work, LOL.

    Thanks again for the lunch. Hope you and Lew have a GREAT time in SD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
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    One less thing to remove to change the oil filter. 5" hole saw and done. Yes, I removed the panel for drilling.

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    Lew, I hope you will continue posting your very interesting mods and experiences. Even the seemingly radical ones. They make good reading.
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    Hi Pete,
    The only ( semi) radical one is the intake mod. Most owners don't know how the air gets to the intake/ air filter. That long tube on the left side near the frunk ends at the front of the with a restricted opening on the very front/left of the 's nose. I cut out the baffle that blocks the air flow and then heated the thermoplastic to enlarge the opening to close to double its size. Not RAM air but MUCH freer flowing , especially at speed.
    I've modded intakes on my ZX11, and V-Max for some improvement----- every little bit helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
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    Hi Pete,
    The only ( semi) radical one is the intake mod. Most owners don't know how the air gets to the intake/ air filter. That long tube on the left side near the frunk ends at the front of the with a restricted opening on the very front/left of the 's nose. I cut out the baffle that blocks the air flow and then heated the thermoplastic to enlarge the opening to close to double its size. Not RAM air but MUCH freer flowing , especially at speed.
    I've modded intakes on my ZX11, and V-Max for some improvement----- every little bit helps.

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    I also scrapped all that plastic. .... now I have a 3 in. tube that goes directly into the airbox .... pics are in one of my albums ..... Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    I also scrapped all that plastic. .... now I have a 3 in. tube that goes directly into the airbox .... pics are in one of my albums ..... Mike
    Question-----
    Where does the tube draw intake air from??? Inside the tupperwear??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
    Question-----
    Where does the tube draw intake air from??? Inside the tupperwear??
    Well if I understand you ..... ( & I hope you looked at the pic ) . My set-up operates the same way the OEM system, except there is no plastic air intake tube. When I take the Frunk off part of my tube stays attached to the frunk and the other part stays attached to the air box plastic .... they just slide together ..... there's no need for this to air tight because all the air is pre-filter. .... I hope this makes sense..... Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
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    Hi Pete,
    The only ( semi) radical one is the intake mod. Most owners don't know how the air gets to the intake/ air filter. That long tube on the left side near the frunk ends at the front of the with a restricted opening on the very front/left of the 's nose. I cut out the baffle that blocks the air flow and then heated the thermoplastic to enlarge the opening to close to double its size. Not RAM air but MUCH freer flowing , especially at speed.
    I've modded intakes on my ZX11, and V-Max for some improvement----- every little bit helps.

    Lew L
    hmmmm, I like this idea. Will need to poke around a little and maybe do it. I enlarged the leading edge of the intake tube on the two R1200Cs I have. In both instances I saw an increase in fuel mileage of 3 to 4mpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Well if I understand you ..... ( & I hope you looked at the pic ) . My set-up operates the same way the OEM system, except there is no plastic air intake tube. When I take the Frunk off part of my tube stays attached to the frunk and the other part stays attached to the air box plastic .... they just slide together ..... there's no need for this to air tight because all the air is pre-filter. .... I hope this makes sense..... Mike
    OK, I think I found the pix. ( on a white ) Where does that black tube stick out into the air stream????
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    I love to read and see pics of mods. Would someone please post a pic of the air intake y'all are talking about? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangorbob View Post
    I love to read and see pics of mods. Would someone please post a pic of the air intake y'all are talking about? Thanks.
    We were talking about two versions ..... Enlarging the OEM air intake ...OR .... totally removing it ( which is what I did )..... Mike

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    You know where the Air Box ( with the filter is ) .... well I removed the OEM rubber elbow, and attached half of the Metal tube to the box at the original elbow hole ..... the other half is attached ( w/ "L" brackets and rivets ) frunk wall in the same location .... sorry I don't have pics of the inside ....... All this was done to provide ambient air to go directly into the OEM air-box ..... Mike

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