ACE 1330 - What RPM do you cruise??

[spyderfish]

Talking flat and level, light wind. I am jaded by 7 years of 998, not sure how to detect 1330 is lugging because it seems good all the way down to 2500.

Is steady 2500 RPM bad for engine?

[Little Blue]

....Trying to understand your question.
I usually cruise around 3500 rpms in 5th or 6th gear.
That being said, there is some information in your operating manual. Check it out and see what it has to say.

Remember that Lugging your Spyder Engine is not a good thing to do.
Enjoy your Ryde Time and Stay Safe. .....

[Mikey]

I think it's more a trany issue if you lug it down than a engine issue!

[FlyBoy2121]

I Guys
My RTL 3400 has 3500 RPM on the highway.

FlyBoy2121

[Piratezz]

Cruisin at 2500 rpm's is absolutely not harmfull for the engine, neither the clutch will suffer, but be prepared to shift down, when going uphill, or if you are passing a car, semi, or a fast cyclist....
Spyder is the happiest round the 3500 to 5500 rpm mark...for shifting points, Me when in the city, I normally drive in 3rd or 4th gear, 45 to 65 km'h, when on highway cruiscontrol and a steady 100 km'h, the spyder runs at 3000 rpm.

Just don't hit the throttle in a too low gear or rpm, that is what causes damage in the long run, better to shift down, and hit the gas... The spyder will reward you every time, with a big grin on your face

[ARtraveler]

3500 is the sweet spot on my 1330's. When in sixth, at speeds over 60 mph...its going to be what its going to be. Otherwise, we keep it in the 3500 range for the gears.

[Deanna777]

Talking flat and level, light wind. I am jaded by 7 years of 998, not sure how to detect 1330 is lugging because it seems good all the way down to 2500.

Is steady 2500 RPM bad for engine?

With the "1330 Ace" engines (Spyder years 2014 and up) you can cruise around comfortably at 3,300 RPM'S with the outstanding ride of the new 6-speed engine transmission. The new Spyder RT is optimized to deliver a smooth ride for you and your passenger, thanks to its long-ratio sixth gear and new hydraulic clutch activation system with electronic pressure control. Pass thru town without downshifting. Just relax and enjoy the scenery.

I have a 2014 RTS-SE6, the Spyder cruises around @ 3,300 RPM's comfortably, I don't feel any lugging.

Deanna

[2dogs]

3,000 is my sweet spot. Find I get my best MPG in that range and most of the sharper turns can be more easily done without braking by using engine deceleration to slow down a bit. Makes brake pads/rotors last longer. Also, obstacles are more easily avoided. Running 2 wheels, obstacles were not that great of a threat. But with 3 wheels and only 4" of ground clearance obstacles are a greater concern now.

[troop]

Having a F3S with 89t rear pulley, my cruising rpm's are a bit higher. Heck, on 80mph interstates, I'm at 4500+.

[JayBros]

The ECM controlling the 1330 ACE engine will not let you lug it. If your RPMs are not high enough it won't let you upshift; if you let the RPMs drop too low it automatically downshifts to the next gear(s). The Hydraulic Control Module locks up instantly so you don't have to keep the engine spinning like a V-twin with a centrifugal clutch.

[BCNewell]

^^^ But - if you have a lever in front of the left grip ... ????

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Talking flat and level, light wind. I am jaded by 7 years of 998, not sure how to detect 1330 is lugging because it seems good all the way down to 2500.

Is steady 2500 RPM bad for engine?

IMHO only the V-twin engines ...... Mike

[UtahPete]

Cruisin at 2500 rpm's is absolutely not harmfull for the engine, neither the clutch will suffer, but be prepared to shift down, when going uphill, or if you are passing a car, semi, or a fast cyclist....
Spyder is the happiest round the 3500 to 5500 rpm mark...for shifting points, Me when in the city, I normally drive in 3rd or 4th gear, 45 to 65 km'h, when on highway cruiscontrol and a steady 100 km'h, the spyder runs at 3000 rpm.

Just don't hit the throttle in a too low gear or rpm, that is what causes damage in the long run, better to shift down, and hit the gas... The spyder will reward you every time, with a big grin on your face

Exactly right

[UtahPete]

The ECM controlling the 1330 ACE engine will not let you lug it. If your RPMs are not high enough it won't let you upshift; if you let the RPMs drop too low it automatically downshifts to the next gear(s). The Hydraulic Control Module locks up instantly so you don't have to keep the engine spinning like a V-twin with a centrifugal clutch.

[old Timer]

Keep in mind that Lugging is low RPM with hi throttle settings You can cruise all day at low RPM's with corresponding low throttle settings.

[IGETAROUND]

I normally travel @ 60MPH which correlates to 3400 RPM

Al in Kazoo

[spyderfish]

Great information, thanx all. Looks like 3,000 min is a good rule to use.

[JayBros]

^^^ But - if you have a lever in front of the left grip ... ????

Yes, the lever is there, but if you push it to upshift and the RPMs are not high enough the transmission will not upshift. Downshifting it will work at any RPM to allow the rider to take maximum advantage of engine braking.

[Peter Aawen]

^^^ But - if you have a lever in front of the left grip ... ????

Yes, the lever is there, but if you push it to upshift and the RPMs are not high enough the transmission will not upshift. Downshifting it will work at any RPM to allow the rider to take maximum advantage of engine braking.

Errrmmm, I think he's talking about that alloy lever you pull back towards the handgrip before initiating any gear change that some of the earlier/less advanced Spyders still have JayBros - it's old technology I know; it doesn't work anywhere near as quickly/easily as the paddle shift most of us use these days; but I'm led to believe that there are still a few of the earlier Spyders with Manual clutches running around out there! Just as an aside tho, there are rev/road speed/gear selection situations where the SE might balk at making a downshift, altho you do hafta really work at it to find them!

BC, if it is one of those old fashioned alloy clutch lever thingies in front of the left handlebar/hand grip that you're asking about, then you have my sympathy; but in that case, it's all up to you with no fail-safes!

[RayBJ]

3000 is my low end with 35-3700 usual for cruising but the engine feels more ready to go at 4000+. If in traffic I'm at 4000 if a hasty maneuver is needed.

[mecsw500]

I don't really look at the rev counter very often to be honest. On the freeway I usually cruise at 70 mph or so in top gear, perhaps 75-80 mph in the 80 mph speed limit sections, the engine seems happy enough - very smooth. On acceleration I think peak torque seems to be well below peak power so there isn't much point in revving it out to the redline. The 1330 seems to be all about mid range and that's where mine is happiest.

[Pirate]

I try to keep the RPM's at least 3-3500rpm. If its close to 2500 or less, I will downshift. I notice a bit of lugging or hesitation at 2500 or under.

[Piratezz]

Cruisin rpm's @2500, is not harming the spyder at all, just don't hit the gas in high gear/ low revs, I have mine custom tuned for low revs/cruisin, more bottom end torque, and missing some at the top end.

[bikerbillone]

With gas prices at all time highs, cruisin' at 2500 rpm makes a lot of sense. Just made a trip from FL to TN and return, my credit card was heating up something fierce.

2020 RTL

[RayBJ]

With gas prices at all time highs, cruisin' at 2500 rpm makes a lot of sense. Just made a trip from FL to TN and return, my credit card was heating up something fierce.

2020 RTL

I'm not sure that's an accurate assessment. Low RPMs doesn't mean better gas mileage. The 'load' is the key. I watched the instant MPG cruising at steady speed and the engine was happier at 3000 than 2500 and the instant MPG was higher. Not a scientific experiment but it was a clear difference.