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Look up MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for CanAms oil for a good read....
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Originally Posted by Tango
BRP oil is not JASO rated. Check the bottle. Just saying. They make it for use in all of their engines. Tom
BRP markets an Oil that some refiner makes ..... JMHO .... Mike
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I've been using Rotella T 15w-40w in all my vehicles for many years! The BEST in cars, trucks, motor cycles. No problems!! Especially in our mild California weather.
2014 RTL bought in 3/20 with only 6,000 mi.
Came with Garmin 660
Car tires in 5/20; Elka stage 2 front shocks in 10/21
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Originally Posted by SteveandBelinda
I noticed people talking about using Shell Rotella T6. T6 is diesel oil, according to what people mentioned. Since when and why would you use diesel oil in place of a4 stroke motorcycle engine oil?
To answer directly, it's an oil that meets the specification, is priced competitively, and has a strong following.
The rest of the answer is more complex. Just because it's a diesel oil does not mean it can't be put in anything else. That just means it is marketed and labelled toward a target audience. T6 is a heavy duty oil, made from Shell's XHVI stock. It's a GrpIII synthetic made from slack wax using a Solvate Dewaxing process. Diesel oils usually have small amounts of silicone present to minimize foaming because there are several diesel engines that use oil pressure to fire the injectors. These HEUI engines are very hard on oil, shearing it over time. Some high pressure oil pumps in modern diesels run at 36,000 PSI. Any trip through a Spyder oiling system will be a cakewalk for Rotella.
Back in the 80's, Suzuki MC oil at every dealer world wide was repackaged/rebadged Rotella conventional, so Shell has been in the common sumps of bikes for over 40 years.
You don't feel good about running a diesel oil? Cool... Maybe you'll like the idea of an airplane oil instead.
Note the JASO MA spec, 10w40, synthetic blend, especially for Rotax in ultalight aircraft. This oil would likely outperform Rotella, but it not readily available, and is considerably more expensive.
https://aviooil.com/wp-content/uploa...Plus-4-TDS.pdf
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Baloo is my name. Spyders are my game. Well, it's a doo-bah-dee-doo, yes, it's a doo-bah-dee-doo, I mean a doo-bee, doo-bee, doo-bee, doo-bee, doo-bee-dee-doo. And, well, now. Ha ha! What have we here?
2020 Petrol Blue Metallic RTL
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Originally Posted by Tango
Might you have a link? Google brought up everything but Can AM oil. Tom
Try this https://xpslubricants.com/media/safe.../779133_EN.pdf
Personally the msds is no different than many others I've saw. I see nothing alarming to me that any other oil/fuel would have in it.
Last edited by K80Shooter; 02-21-2023 at 08:50 AM.
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Originally Posted by K80Shooter
Can't tell much from a MSDS. the oil they list is 64742-54-7, a paraffin base oil, and depending upon the process is either GRP II, GRP II+ or GRP III. Nothing special about it.
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Originally Posted by carbonation
Can't tell much from a MSDS. the oil they list is 64742-54-7, a paraffin base oil, and depending upon the process is either GRP II, GRP II+ or GRP III. Nothing special about it.
One of the other members posted this "Look up MSDS (Material Safety Data Sheet) for CanAms oil for a good read...." and another posted this " Might you have a link? Google brought up everything but Can AM oil. Tom " so I was merely posting that for him.
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Originally Posted by carbonation
To answer directly, it's an oil that meets the specification, is priced competitively, and has a strong following.
The rest of the answer is more complex. Just because it's a diesel oil does not mean it can't be put in anything else. That just means it is marketed and labelled toward a target audience. T6 is a heavy duty oil, made from Shell's XHVI stock. It's a GrpIII synthetic made from slack wax using a Solvate Dewaxing process. Diesel oils usually have small amounts of silicone present to minimize foaming because there are several diesel engines that use oil pressure to fire the injectors. These HEUI engines are very hard on oil, shearing it over time. Some high pressure oil pumps in modern diesels run at 36,000 PSI. Any trip through a Spyder oiling system will be a cakewalk for Rotella.
Back in the 80's, Suzuki MC oil at every dealer world wide was repackaged/rebadged Rotella conventional, so Shell has been in the common sumps of bikes for over 40 years.
You don't feel good about running a diesel oil? Cool... Maybe you'll like the idea of an airplane oil instead.
Note the JASO MA spec, 10w40, synthetic blend, especially for Rotax in ultalight aircraft. This oil would likely outperform Rotella, but it not readily available, and is considerably more expensive.
https://aviooil.com/wp-content/uploa...Plus-4-TDS.pdf
I just bought a 2.5 gal. (10qt) (big) bottle of Rotella T6 15-40w at AutoZone for $80!! That's only $8 per quart!! WAY cheaper than anything you can buy if you get it by the quart or gallon!!
Last edited by redrazor; 02-21-2023 at 03:31 PM.
Reason: mispelling
2014 RTL bought in 3/20 with only 6,000 mi.
Came with Garmin 660
Car tires in 5/20; Elka stage 2 front shocks in 10/21
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Originally Posted by redrazor
I just bought a 2.5 gal. (10qt) (big) bottle of Rotella T6 15-40w at AutoZone for $80!! That's only $8 per quart!! WAY cheaper than anything you can buy if you get it by the quart or gallon!!
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Rot...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
6.18 a quart. (Sorry to burst the bubble.... VatoZone isn't cheap.)
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Wal Mart is 6.74 a quart in gallon jugs.
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Oh well; next time I'll remember that. AutoZone is less than a mile from home though.
2014 RTL bought in 3/20 with only 6,000 mi.
Came with Garmin 660
Car tires in 5/20; Elka stage 2 front shocks in 10/21
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Originally Posted by pegasus1300
Wal Mart is 6.74 a quart in gallon jugs.
I purchased Rotella T6 5w-40 in a gallon jug at Menards tonight. The price was $22.01 or $5.5025 per quart after rebate.
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There is a rebate on now ?
Happy TRAils/NSD
Paul
2012 RT L
AMA 25 years Life Member
TRA
PGR
Rhino Riders Plate #83
Venturers #78
TOI
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Originally Posted by pegasus1300
There is a rebate on now ?
Just the Menards 11% Rebate they frequently run.
2021 Spyder RT Limited Asphalt Gray Chrome Edition
2022 Spyder RT Limited Hyper Silver Chrome Edition
Spyderco Paramilitary 2
Vanquest Gen 2 7x10 First Aid Trauma Pack
Garage Door Opener
iPass
DJI Action 2
Tackform Anti-Vibe Phone Cradle
UltraGard Full Covers
Show Chrome rear trunk lid lift strut
Noco Genius 1
Noco GBX Booster X
Show Chrome Platinum Grande Adjustable Padded Driver Backrest with Storage Pouch
Baseus Cordless Inflator
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