Back and neck pain after Ultimate seat - anyone else? Fix?
So, just throwing this out there. I put an UltimTe seat on my 2021 RTL, and now I have a little pain in my upper back and neck. So I feel like I need to bring the handlebars back, but not up. Has anyone else experienced that?
Am I thinking about this right back without raising them? Is that even a thing?
Thanks
2021 RT Limited in Marsala Red & chrome (9/20)
2006 Yamaha Royal Star Venture - Black Cherry
2003 Suzuki Volusia - Black w/ Gold
1973 Honda CL350 - Hawaiian Blue
You can loosen the clamp bolts and rotate the bars on the ‘21 RT, Mike……..
BUT…… if you rotate the bars toward you, that obviously lowers the height of the bars. Also, there is a slot in the base of the stock bars that limits the amount you can rotate them. If you want to keep the bars at the same height as current, but bring them toward you, your cheapest option is risers. Lamonster, for example, sell a riser block that lifts the bars around 2”. If you install that, and then rotate the bars toward you, you should come pretty close to achieving what you are after.
As Ray mentions above, Helibars are brilliant with the 4 adjustments, but they are pricey.
HeliBars Handlebars
Brake rubber removed to lower pedal for easier long leg/Size 15 EEEEW boot access.
Ikon (Aussie) shocks all round.
Russell Daylong seat 2 taller than stock (in Sunbrella for Aussie heat & water resistance)
Goodyear Duragrip 165/60 fronts (18psi) - provides extra 1/2 ground clearance.
Kenda Kanine rear.
2021 RT Limited , Brake pedal rubber removed for ease of accessing pedal with size 15 boots. Red
Note that rotating the bars down will also change your wrist angle which could be a concern. I bit the bullet and installed Heli Bars for the flexibility of positioning.
So, just throwing this out there. I put an UltimTe seat on my 2021 RTL, and now I have a little pain in my upper back and neck. So I feel like I need to bring the handlebars back, but not up. Has anyone else experienced that?
Am I thinking about this right back without raising them? Is that even a thing?
Thanks
If you bring the bars back you will be retracting your scapula (shoulder blades). That will increase the pain in your upper back and probably increase neck pain. The way to test this without changing the position of the bars is, once you feel the pain, stop, release the handle bars, and retract (bring back) the scapula and protract (bring forward) and notice which position increases or decreases the pain. You dont happen to elevate your shoulders when riding, do you.
how soon after you started riding your Spyder did the Pain start ?? because I have kinda same problem , but I just thought it was because I grip the Handle Bars way to tight I know , I have been really trying to relax more , but I know its hard to do , I sure want to hear what if anything helps you with your pain.
how soon after you started riding your Spyder did the Pain start ?? because I have kinda same problem , but I just thought it was because I grip the Handle Bars way to tight I know , I have been really trying to relax more , but I know its hard to do , I sure want to hear what if anything helps you with your pain.
.... I no longer even GRIP the bars .... fingers not holding just resting .... UNLESS I'm in the twistie's ...... I guide my Spyder not really steering it ....... way less fatiguing ..... good luck .... Mike
how soon after you started riding your Spyder did the Pain start ?? because I have kinda same problem , but I just thought it was because I grip the Handle Bars way to tight I know , I have been really trying to relax more , but I know its hard to do , I sure want to hear what if anything helps you with your pain.
I think after my first 2 hours, but I really didn’t think about it much. Then second looonger ride for me was Friday, 175 miles with one stop, and the pain is back. Not horrible, but I started thinking about it.
Then after reading these replies I did the same ride, but home. When I felt it I moved my hands off the bars, just leaving my fingertips, so somewhere about 2” up and back. That might be the answer, or at least convincing enough to give it a try.
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 05-15-2022 at 06:05 PM.
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2021 RT Limited in Marsala Red & chrome (9/20)
2006 Yamaha Royal Star Venture - Black Cherry
2003 Suzuki Volusia - Black w/ Gold
1973 Honda CL350 - Hawaiian Blue
I think after my first 2 hours, but I really didn’t think about it much. Then second looonger ride for me was Friday, 175 miles with one stop, and the pain is back. Not horrible, but I started thinking about it.
Then after reading these replies I did the same ride, but home. When I felt i I moved my hands off the bars, just leaving my fingertips, so somewhere about 2” up and back. That might be the answer, or at least convincing enough to give it a try.
Mike, if you are sure it is your arm/hand position causing the issues, you should seriously consider the Helibars if finances allow. They will let you go up and back, and adjust the wrist angle for the best comfort.
HeliBars Handlebars
Brake rubber removed to lower pedal for easier long leg/Size 15 EEEEW boot access.
Ikon (Aussie) shocks all round.
Russell Daylong seat 2 taller than stock (in Sunbrella for Aussie heat & water resistance)
Goodyear Duragrip 165/60 fronts (18psi) - provides extra 1/2 ground clearance.
Kenda Kanine rear.
2021 RT Limited , Brake pedal rubber removed for ease of accessing pedal with size 15 boots. Red
Thank you all. I'll look further at the Helibars ... but I don't think I'm $600 sore, but I do appreciate where you are coming from. I usually try to ascribe to the "pay once, cry once" school of thought, but our finances wont allow that right now.
Thank you all for your input and things to think about. I'm going to take a ride and try all the suggestions.
2021 RT Limited in Marsala Red & chrome (9/20)
2006 Yamaha Royal Star Venture - Black Cherry
2003 Suzuki Volusia - Black w/ Gold
1973 Honda CL350 - Hawaiian Blue
Thank you all. I'll look further at the Helibars ... but I don't think I'm $600 sore, but I do appreciate where you are coming from. I usually try to ascribe to the "pay once, cry once" school of thought, but our finances wont allow that right now.
Thank you all for your input and things to think about. I'm going to take a ride and try all the suggestions.
Fair enough, Mike…..and I have seen a couple of pairs of Helibars for sale as they didn’t work for their owners (not sure why), so they don’t work for everybody, just nearly everybody . I would hate you to spend that money and then find that you are one of those riders. Mind you, there is always a market for 2nd hand, so they can be sold easily. Good luck in finding a resolution
HeliBars Handlebars
Brake rubber removed to lower pedal for easier long leg/Size 15 EEEEW boot access.
Ikon (Aussie) shocks all round.
Russell Daylong seat 2 taller than stock (in Sunbrella for Aussie heat & water resistance)
Goodyear Duragrip 165/60 fronts (18psi) - provides extra 1/2 ground clearance.
Kenda Kanine rear.
2021 RT Limited , Brake pedal rubber removed for ease of accessing pedal with size 15 boots. Red
Fair enough, Mike…..and I have seen a couple of pairs of Helibars for sale as they didn’t work for their owners (not sure why), so they don’t work for everybody, just nearly everybody . I would hate you to spend that money and then find that you are one of those riders. Mind you, there is always a market for 2nd hand, so they can be sold easily. Good luck in finding a resolution
Pete
I wish I could have found a used set, but I was lucky enough to wait until the taller 2022 F3 version came out. After elongating the hole a touch, I can damn near make them mini apes
2022 RT Sea To Sky
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I have an ultimate seat on my F3. I love it but it didn't eliminate the neck/shoulder pain. That was solved by purchasing (directly from CanAm) and installing Short Reach handlebars. Pain is gone. If that hadn't worked, my next step would have been the more expensive Heli-Bars.
2019 Can Am F3 Limited
Spyder Upgrades/mods:
F4 Windscreen,
Ultimate seat and Driver's backrest,
Lamonster Fog lights,
Lamonster Brake Rod kit,
CanAm Short Reach Handlebar
Other Current Bike: 2009 Honda Shadow 750 Aero
Past Bikes:
2018 BMW C650CT
2013 BMW C650GT
2011 Honda SH150i
I'm coming late to this thread. I seem to be doing that a lot lately................
Regardless, I vote strongly for Helbars.
Quite a bit of cash up front, around $650.
Nevertheless, the best investment I made on my 2020 RTL.
I had my dealer install them even before I picked the bike up.
Infinite adjustment in all planes. You even have the possibility, if necessary, to adjust the left side and the right side independently.
I also got the BRP backrest.
As always, my free advice comes with a double your money back guarantee.
If it ain't broke, don't break it.
IBA #47122
2020 RT Limited Asphalt Grey
I do like taller bars on my bikes, but with the position of the mirrors, i am concerned that the Helibars are going to put my hands right in the view of the mirrors.
I have my F3 bars lifted about a high as i can go and see my mirrors just over my wrist. If anything i would like to go higher.
Can you folks that have the Helibars tell me if you can see your current mirrors, or did you have to add new mirrors? Thanks
I do like taller bars on my bikes, but with the position of the mirrors, i am concerned that the Helibars are going to put my hands right in the view of the mirrors.
I have my F3 bars lifted about a high as i can go and see my mirrors just over my wrist. If anything i would like to go higher.
Can you folks that have the Helibars tell me if you can see your current mirrors, or did you have to add new mirrors? Thanks
I have the newer/taller version of the Helibars on my F3S. Yup .. They do block the OEM mirrors. I have Lamonster Top Cuffs/aftermarket mirrors on the byke now.
2022 RT Sea To Sky
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To the OP, try giving yourself a few weeks with the new setup before you buy anything. Sometimes it takes your body to get used to the changes but eventually you will. Just like when I got my bike and it took a few weeks for my arms to settle in.
My Mods:
Elka Stage 5 rear shock with spring preload adjust
Monster Stage 2 ECU
Pedal Commander
RLS cat delete
Baja Ron sway bar
Baker Air Wings upper and lower
Viking saddle bags
Third pegs
Vredestein tires front and rear
Mad Stad windshield
X-creen windshield deflector
Front and rear drive cam
Garmin Zumo XT
Heated gear wiring
Lamonster LED headlights
Lamonster LED foglights
Lamonster frame mount cupholder
BRP heated handgrips
Lamonster drivers backrest
BRP passenger backrest
Lidlock handlebar end helmet locks
Barkbusters Storm handguards