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    Default Do you think dealerships should offer some compensation/discounts ??

    For the incredibly long delivery wait times.

    I just hear of so many buyers of new bikes that have to wait MONTHS to finally get their bikes delivered. By the time they finally get their fully-functional machine, half the riding season will just about be over. Also, it's just pure torture for those who have no patience like myself ........ mental anguish, if you will.

    I think dealerships should offer some sort of discounts on parts, riding gear, extended warranty, etc. as a sign of good will, no matter how insignificant the savings, imho.
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    This was discussed for many months on the sled forums. Snowmobiles already went through this exact situation this past season. No its not the dealers fault! They are not making a penny while the vehicle is sitting there with missing parts because you can’t take purchase of it. So they too are loosing. “We” can blame BRP, but in the the end it is the world we are in and I can not blame them either. They “want” to sell the units, that’s their business and revenue! They are not doing this on purpose. If they can’t get the parts its not because they are not trying, BRP is loosing also. The parts are just not available. Its a bummer and a raw deal that machines are not coming in and parts are not showing up but it is the entire scope of things that needs to be changed or fixed. I am guessing BRP will offerer a $500 discount on next years model and accessories like they did on the sleds but not till September or so. No the dealer should not have to pick up the weight of offering discounts in my opinion.


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    I typically start riding more towards the fall time frame. Ride all winter into spring. And not ride nearly as much in the summer. Way too damn hot for me. Get above 85F and I am screwed. Give me 20F and I am ok. :-)

    So no issues waiting
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    I agree with Wmoater 100%, it is NOT the Dealers fault, not is it BRP’s fault. They are both hurting from this problem, and unfortunately there ir no one that I am aware of that we can blame. It’s a sad state of affairs, but....... I guess that it’s something that we have to live with (at least for now).


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    Compensation for what?
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    Sorry but for me this is a very sensitive subject being I work as a manager in a retail store and hear this same mentality at least 10 times a day, "I want a discount" for delays out of the businesses control. How in anyway is it the dealers fault when supply constraints are happening in every industry around the world. The businesses did not cause the world to shut down, did not cause the supply shortages for raw materials, did not cause transportation delays and did not even cause the consumers to continue to purchase to such a demand that it would be a challenge to supply even if things had not gone to hell in a hand basket. Sorry but I just do not understand this thinking, be frustrated or angry but do not expect the burden to be carried by those who do not deserve it.
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    This time, I am on the dealer's side. They are not responsible for the supply chain issues. Pain and suffering to the customer--No.

    If you do not like what is going on, vote with your checkbook. I waited patiently for the first Spyder sold to a customer in Alaska. They were not even supposed to get any. Deposit in October of 2007. It arrived in June of 2008. Would I do that again, NO!

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    Ummm… not the dealers fault. They need to pay their employees and would like nothing better than to get our cash so they can fund operations. The dealer doesn’t owe me anything. I’m the one who chose to make a down payment and continue to chose to be patient and not cancel my order.
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    What about offering the extended BEST warranty through the dealers at a fixed, at cost, price. That would reassure many new purchasers that BRP is standing behind the units and additionally would not harm the dealers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brentc View Post
    What about offering the extended BEST warranty through the dealers at a fixed, at cost, price. That would reassure many new purchasers that BRP is standing behind the units and additionally would not harm the dealers.
    This is EXACTLY the type of discount I was thinking about.

    Not like a want a 20% discount off MSRP on that Shoei helmet on their shelf.
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    You guys are cracking me up!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brentc View Post
    What about offering the extended BEST warranty through the dealers at a fixed, at cost, price. That would reassure many new purchasers that BRP is standing behind the units and additionally would not harm the dealers.
    Why would it "not harm the dealers?" That warranty is just another product they sell with a markup for a profit. No business can operate without a profit.

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    I personally don’t think that if Brp did something like this it would be harmful. Dealers routinely sell items at cost to entice customers return business and to get people in the showroom, etc..
    I am fine waiting for my new bike to show up when it’s ready, and am also happy with the deal I made and if nothing additional is added to it, that’s also fine by me. I didn’t t vote yes or no, just offering an idea that seemed to me to be an amicable, and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brentc View Post
    What about offering the extended BEST warranty through the dealers at a fixed, at cost, price. That would reassure many new purchasers that BRP is standing behind the units and additionally would not harm the dealers.
    I like that idea.

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    A dealer here told me last Oct they had just three 2021 left and that they'd just been told that it was unlikely any 2022 Spyders would be coming into the country. Imagine being a dealer and finding you'd have no stock to sell for a year. They had also got far less seadoos than they had ordered. No stock no income, discounts is the last thing dealers can offer at the moment.

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    Would simply like something more along the lines of; fixing the preexisting issues like better tires, not just some other brand name, actual decent tires that have a chance to last. & “connect” many reported issues. Just a thought

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    Default Offer a great Price

    ...BRP should offer a great price on the BEST WARRANTY. This might get some attention on dealing with
    the delivery date issues.
    I really Do NOT like the waiting game. .....
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    Rather than do the dance around discounts, I feel there should be a law that you can't sell an item unless it is a whole item that can be delivered.

    If it doesn't have all of the parts to put it together you should not be allowed to sell an item that is incomplete or take orders on it.
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    Its not a delay on the dealers part and remedy should be from the manufacturer not the indepedent dealer.. Why should he take it out of his bottom line...
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    Well, let's see, how can I say this without getting political ..... Ummm, one might even say that it isn't the dealer's fault nor is it BRP's fault. So, offering discounts and other compensation because of external market forces and conditions only makes their currently poor profit margins even worse. I want them and all other businesses to stay "in business" right now. The more businesses that remain open increases competition and helps all of us consumers for all the products that we buy and use - not just recreational vehicles.
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    I was talking to my dealer last week. They are in quite a cash flow bind. They can't get inventory, can't collect on the sales of products that have shipped but are awaiting parts, but they have to buy all the accessories that go with the products but can't really sell them because the products are incomplete.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Yabbadabbadoo View Post
    I was talking to my dealer last week. They are in quite a cash flow bind. They can't get inventory, can't collect on the sales of products that have shipped but are awaiting parts, but they have to buy all the accessories that go with the products but can't really sell them because the products are incomplete.
    As a former Dealer, this post is 100% on the money. It is simply amazing how utterly clueless some out there are..........
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    Quote Originally Posted by old Timer View Post
    As a former Dealer, this post is 100% on the money. It is simply amazing how utterly clueless some out there are..........
    Absolutely spot on. I've been trying to say this for some time now but couldn't have said it better!

    Edit: Maybe 'clueless' was a little harsh. Maybe 'uninformed' would have been a better choice of words. It is obvious each of us has different opinions and that is just fine.
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    Delays aren’t the dealer’s fault. CAN AM should be compensating purchasers waiting for product they are unable to ship. Pre-ordering should have ceased when the supply-chain issues arose, and deposits refunded until product could be reliably available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old Timer View Post
    As a former Dealer, this post is 100% on the money. It is simply amazing how utterly clueless some out there are..........
    Your entitled to your opinion, but if your not able to express it without insulting other forum members by saying they are clueless, then you probably shouldn’t post.
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