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Mixing Oil in RT
I have always used BRP oil when doing regular maintenance on my Spyders. Someone said that Castrol makes a synthetic blend that is the same as Can Am oil. I already have a gallon of BRP oil for my next oil change but thought about mixing a quart of Castrol with the CanAm oil. Would that be the wrong thing to do? Should I stay with 5 quarts of the same oil? I appreciate anyone's thoughts about this. Thanks!
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I agree some what, but boy this one will be big, I think!!!
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As long as with in spec’s should be fine, please double check before getting too far. If not suitable for wet clutch is the biggest concern.
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Same specs. No problem. It is my understanding that BRP oil is just Castrol in a different bottle. Same with Ford, Chevy, Harley, Honda, etc. The only thing BRP about their oil is the container that you throw away.
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Same Oil?
...I can't see any wrong with this. But if you have a problem with the mixing of your oils, buy the needed amount and then you will be happy.
Same oil but a different brand is not a real problem.
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The only Castrol 5w-40 I see is Full Synthetic Castrol EDGE Euro Car formula. Is this what your talking about? The Can-am says its a synthetic blend. Does that matter?
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Originally Posted by XPress
The only Castrol 5w-40 I see is Full Synthetic Castrol EDGE Euro Car formula. Is this what your talking about? The Can-am says its a synthetic blend. Does that matter?
I am not a fan of 'Blended' oils. My go to analogy is, take 90% tap water and add 10% crystal clean spring water. What do you have? That's what you're getting with a 'Blended' oil. If you're going to go with a high quality lubricant. What not spend a bit more and get 100% of the good stuff? Just my perspective.
The send thing you really need to know. If it isn't JASO MA2 rated, you don't want to use it in a Spyder. BRP recommends a 5w-40 blended oil because that is what they sell. When they sold 10w-40, that's what they recommended. Because Spyders rarely see cold start temperatures below zero Fahrenheit, a 10w-40 is a better viscosity for the Spyder. The further the spread between the low and high number. The less stable (more prone to breaking down) the oil is. In temps typically in 3 digit territory. Many customers are using 20w-50 in their Spyder with good results.
One good example of selling what you have instead of what is best for the application is BRP's recommendation that the Ryker use a wet clutch oil. Wet clutch oils are a compromise product. The engine wants as slippery a lubrication as it can get. Not only will it last longer, but it will get better fuel mileage. In a wet clutch environment, the transmission needs a lubricant that can stand up to gear crushing forces (something the engine only application never sees), and the wet clutch needs a fair amount of friction to work reliably. Exactly the opposite of what the engine and transmission needs.
Compromise products always have 2 things in common. 1- They, by necessity, are not as good at any one aspect as a single need product. And 2- They are more expensive. Using an automotive lubricant in the Ryker is not only less expensive. It will give you better service as you're only targeting 1 parameter. Which is engine lubrication.
Yes, a wet clutch lubricant will work just fine in a non-wet clutch application like the Ryker. You'll have no issues. It's just not the best option, nor is it the least expensive.
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Originally Posted by XPress
The only Castrol 5w-40 I see is Full Synthetic Castrol EDGE Euro Car formula. Is this what your talking about? The Can-am says its a synthetic blend. Does that matter?
https://www.amazon.com/Castrol-Power...NsaWNrPXRydWU=
Also, their is no API (American Petroleum Institute) standard on the contents of partial synthetics or synthetic blends. Oil MFR's are not required to disclose that. You may be getting 95% petroleum/5% synthetic. API standards make it necessary for their products to be able to be mixed.
Last edited by troop; 04-27-2022 at 11:29 AM.
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From what I have read, Fully Synthetic is a marketing term which may well be blended with mineral oil in some unstated proportion.
I also have read, that therm to be looking for is 100% synthetic, which I'm led to believe is 100% synthetic oil and 100% synthetic additives.
Of course, who knows if what you read is actually true, but this was just my understanding.
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