Is there a correction for dodgy outside temp readings?

[ivan]

CAN Am still can't get this right I've had a 2011,2014,2018 and a 2021 all RT's and not one did I have a correct outside temperature .Is there a correction on this issue

[Tonylmiller]

Mine appears to be way off.

[ARtraveler]

Ours are always within two degrees of each other, and give or take maybe two degrees from actual. That is close enough for me.

[Bfromla]

Isn’t the ambient temp sensor located in the air box? Help computer adjust accordingly, just happens to have a display on dash.

[ddjim]

Yes its in the intake its the heat soak from the engine giving higher readings

[RapidSpyder]

Yes its in the intake its the heat soak from the engine giving higher readings

About 4-5 degrees higher on mine.

[Peter Aawen]

CAN Am still can't get this right I've had a 2011,2014,2018 and a 2021 all RT's and not one did I have a correct outside temperature .Is there a correction on this issue

Your mistake in this is in thinking of that reading on the dash as an 'outside temperate reading'.... it's NOT, no matter what some salesman &/or marketing bod/publicity blurb might try to con you &/or unaware potential buyers into thinking!

Because of where the sensor is (which is under the tupperware & pretty much right on top of the engine ) at absolute best you're only ever going to get something akin to the 'under-tupperware pre-heated intake air temp' ... which is possibly handy for the engine/computer, but for anyone/anything else it's really nothing more than a vague indicator of how hot the ambient air is after it's been pre-heated by reflection off the road surface; heated some more by the sun beating down on the tupperware; and then cooked for a while by the heat rising off the engine!

Giving you a true indication of ambient or outside air temp would involve adding at least a whole 'nother sensor; locating it somewhere that isn't exposed to direct sunlight; isn't under the tupperware; and isn't going to be subjected to radiant heat from the exhaust &/or heat soak from the engine - sooo, all that means is that it'd cost some design time and a bit of money.... which basically means that unless there's some way of passing those costs plus some profit on to purchasers in a manner they both accept & are happy with, it just isn't ever gonna happen!

So, all that means is that it's best to stop thinking of it as 'outside' or 'ambient' temperature - It's not, it never will be! But it is reasonably good/fairly accurate at telling you what the air temp under the tupperware & on top of the engine is!

Just Ryde More, & Worry (about the temperature displayed on the dash) Less!

[Little Blue]

...What Peter A said. Air temperature under the plastic. .....

[Lawrence]

Shawn Smoak said the 2022 models have the temp sensor relocated

[RapidSpyder]

The other thing that is never accurate is the time. You think that it would auto sync via satellite just like most cars do…

[Mikey]

Mines not that far off, of course if it's been sitting on hot tar for a while it takes a few miles for it to settle out to the correct temp, but for the most part it's maybe a degree or two!

[EdMat]

The other thing that is never accurate is the time. You think that it would auto sync via satellite just like most cars do…

I think that is variable from unit to unit. Mines not off over 2 minutes between time changes.

[RayBJ]

Mine is consistently +4 compared to the other bikes I'm riding with. No clue where their sensors are located. After a lunch stop, the temp is usually near 100 at re-start but falls back quickly.

[Arion]

Not to be too snarky, we try to remind ourselves that our Spyders are motorcycles and not thermometers and appreciate them for what they are.

[Navydad]

My air temp is pretty good, but the clock sucks. Then again I'm retired, I just watch the sun.

[Lew L]

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I made a dash mount for " stuff" and one of the things on it is a proper analog clock. Same companyhttp://www.formotionproducts.com/shop make a thermometer of the same style--- both large enough to be seen with these old eyes.

Lew L

[Joel The Biker]

This was addressed on the new 2022 spyders and the sensor was relocated. Here it is on a 2021. You can relocate it yourself, but may need extension wires.
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On 2014-2019 models, the ambient temp sensor is located as shown in the photo below.
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[IdahoMtnSpyder]

This was addressed on the new 2022 spyders and the sensor was relocated. Here it is on a 2021. You can relocate it yourself, but may need extension wires.
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On 2014-2019 models, the ambient temp sensor is located as shown in the photo below.
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There is downright confusing information going on here. My 2014 RT service manual shows two locations for an Ambient Air Pressure and Temperature Sensor, AAPTS. One is the same as Joel shows for 2014 - 19. But here is another AAPTS location shown in the air tunnel in the frunk.

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I know this one exists because I've disconnected/connected the harness to it. When I test rode the bike after some work where I removed the frunk I got a VSS or limp mode error, I don't recall which. The error went away, of course, after I reinstalled the frunk and connected the harness. The wiring diagram shows only one AAPTS, feeding the ECM. The location diagram shows it to be in the area of the engine just like the one pic above shows.

So what is the real story? Are there two AAPTS sensors but only one on the wiring diagram? Or is the diagram showing the one on the engine wrong? The 2021 pic shows the AAPTS in basically the same location as my 2014 one, in the air tunnel.

I enlarged the hole in the air tunnel so more air would flow over the sensor and the result is my ambient air temp reading is close to readings shown on time and temp gauges.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Here is the pic from the service manual for the RT. Basically the same as the one you posted.

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The one on the engine is identified as an ambient air temperature sensor and is noted in the Engine section of the manual. The one in the tunnel is discussed in the Fuel Injection section of the manual. I don't find the one mounted on the engine in the wiring diagram, nor is there a temp sensor lead going to the cluster.

[Joel The Biker]

That picture is the same as the one I posted. Number 6 is the AAPTS and is mounted on the frame, not on the Engine. I havent looked at my 2014 to see if I can see it or if you need to remove panels. I will look next time I am at the storage garage. There are 2 sensors. AAPTS and MAPTS. My wiring diagram shows both. Right next to each other on the wiring diagram. The MAPTS is mounted on the airbox close to the intake manifold.
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[Baron14y]

Who cares. If you are cold, put on a jacket. If too hot, turn on the air conditioning.

[Tonylmiller]

Who cares. If you are cold, put on a jacket. If too hot, turn on the air conditioning.

Yes, I usually know the outside temperature before I even get on the Spyder. My Spyder's temperature reading is usually somewhere between 5 - 15 degrees high.

[LongIsland]

Time, temperature and speed are inaccurate on mine. Speed is 2 mph less than GPS and those roadside electronic signs (your speed is). I easily ride with these inaccuracies and thoroughly my ride. I rarely think of them, but do when reading posts about them. When that happen I wonder why they aren't correct when I can buy devices that provide 100 per cent accuracy at the dollar store.

[Peter Aawen]

Time, temperature and speed are inaccurate on mine. Speed is 2 mph less than GPS and those roadside electronic signs (your speed is). I easily ride with these inaccuracies and thoroughly my ride. I rarely think of them, but do when reading posts about them. When that happen I wonder why they aren't correct when I can buy devices that provide 100 per cent accuracy at the dollar store.

You're lucky your speedo is reading only 2mph faster! Or have you already upgraded your rear tire to a slightly larger rolling dia a/mkt car tire that's brought your speedo much closer to accurate??

The indicated speed on all 'factory spec' road going motor vehicles is pretty much always going to be optimistic, only it can be & often is over-stated by anything up to about 10% faster than your 'real' speed. And your odo/trip meter will generally be optimistic with your distance travelled too, usually by a similar but not necessarily identical amount! . This is cos it's all mandated by an International Standard/Agreement, supposedly to allow for different specs & maybe different fittings in different regions/country's, but (amongst other things) also so that the various Govt's & vehicle manufacturers can't be held accountable for drivers/riders/operators 'inadvertently' exceeding the speed limit!

Still Longisland, your speedo being only 2mph out means it is pretty accurate for a standard/factory spec Spyder/Ryker! And it's not too shabby even if you have already upgraded your tire/tires too! Shame about the inaccurate Clocks & the Temp gauges tho - but I haven't yet found anything mandating that they should be purposefully made inaccurate.... they must be just something that BRP/Can Am has given us for free & outta the kindness of their hearts!

[K80Shooter]

My speedo on my 2020 RT-L is also 2 mph fast with the oem tire that came on it.