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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkLawson View Post
    Your assumption is that by using the kill switch you're NOT having to use the ignition switch. Obviously, you'll still use the ignition switch every time, regardless if you use the kill switch or not. By using the kill switch, you have introduced another potential point of failure into the equation, and one I believe is not necessary.

    I see no savings here.
    Good point... My thinking was about the electrical portion not the mechanical... As by using the "Kill" here is no power to the switch anymore...

    Maybe using the "Kill" just adds to the expense as we are using more parts

    Unless of course you have left the key in the on position like a few can with the Lamont Key fob thingy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wyliec View Post
    I always use the kill switch. Just in case there is ever a problem while riding, and you need to hit the kill switch, it will be ingrained into you brain. I have an SM5.
    Yep - Same here - every time.

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    When I purchased my RT S the dealer tech said "always use the key switch and not the kill switch to turn off the ". Of course, this is the same tech that left tools and access panel in frunk, quart low on oil and frunk switch not adjusted last service.



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    Default kill switch...

    Neutral, parking brake, kill switch off, reset kill switch to run, ignition switch off, remove key.
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    Well, this is about as emotional and divided as the questions about oil, seats, and octane. I'll be glad to muddy things further with my two cents.

    I use the kill switch. There is a reason they were federally mandated on bikes. If you use it to shut the bike down, that becomes natural, and you will automatically do it if needed someday. I have always done the same with race bikes, for the same reason. Why not the key? How much control do you have when your hand reaches for the center of the handlebars? The idea is to keep your hands where they belong, doing what they need to do in a critical situation. Shutting off in the garage is not critical, but if the situation were serious someday, you would not want the delay of thinking what to do...or the possible loss of control because you did what came naturally from everyday use, and removed your hands from the bars. I never heard of an MSF course that did not advocate the use of the "kill switch". BRP is new to this game, their manual is not the Bible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NancysToy View Post
    Well, this is about as emotional and divided as the questions about oil, seats, and octane. I'll be glad to muddy things further with my two cents.

    I use the kill switch. There is a reason they were federally mandated on bikes. If you use it to shut the bike down, that becomes natural, and you will automatically do it if needed someday. I have always done the same with race bikes, for the same reason. Why not the key? How much control do you have when your hand reaches for the center of the handlebars? The idea is to keep your hands where they belong, doing what they need to do in a critical situation. Shutting off in the garage is not critical, but if the situation were serious someday, you would not want the delay of thinking what to do...or the possible loss of control because you did what came naturally from everyday use, and removed your hands from the bars. I never heard of an MSF course that did not advocate the use of the "kill switch". BRP is new to this game, their manual is not the Bible.

    There, that should be worth at least two cents.
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    And still leave a little change in your pocket.....


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    MSF course teaches kill switch, then key.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retread View Post
    MSF course teaches kill switch, then key.

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    Just an interesting story about Kill Switch, I ride weekly with a group of riders (Roadrunners) last week at one of our stops a jokester in our group
    flipped one our riders BMW RT1200 Kill switch, We all had a good laugh when it got time to leave and BMW would not start panic time for him..


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    Default Kill switch question

    Does it matter if you hit the kill switch first or turn the key off first when shutting down the Spyder? I know the owners manual says to hit the kill switch first. If it does matter, in what way or what is the potential harm?

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    Only time I use the kill switch is at the gas pumps to shut off the engine so I can keep the ignition on.

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    I never use the kill switch

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    No harm. Either way is fine.

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    I have never used the kill switch and never will.



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    I never use the switch, but there is no harm in using it anyway you are comfortable with.
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    I get to use the KILL switch more often than I want. My backseater usually hits it when she grabs the handlebars getting on the Spyder.

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    The Kill switch is there for Emergency purposes on ALL MCs.
    It is not normally used to shutoff an MC.

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    Maybe not as important with modern bikes. If you rode early dirt bikes back when the throttle cable could stick or get caught on brush and leave the engine revving, you wanted to develop the habit of shutting down with the kill switch. There is no need to take your hands off the bars to shut down and this was long before rev limiters. Also, operating the kill switch may help keep the contacts corrosion free and the switch operating properly. If you use it to shut down, at the very least, you will know that it works.
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    In bygone years of my youth in the 1970's I took the MRF Basic Motorcycle Safety course. There they recommended to always use the kill switch to shut down a motorcycle. The reason was to build muscle memory in case of an emergency - if something happens and the bike needs shutting down it will be automatic to use the kill switch, no fumbling around to find it or thinking about the process. I had been doing that for about 40 years, then a few years ago we got a more modern bike, and it was recommended we not use the kill switch as folks might not remember to turn the ignition off at the key and run the battery down.

    Apparently that is the more recent procedure, as if the battery is flat modern bikes controlled by computers don't work without the angry pixies running through the wires.

    I was at an event not too long ago where some joker went through the parking lot and turned most all the kill switches to OFF. About 3/4 of the people had problems starting their bikes, while the old school folks automatically hit the kill switch to ON and fired them up.
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    In 45 years of riding and having been an MSF Instructor, I have always used the "kill switch". Immediately after I shut the engine off with it I turn the ignition off with the key and clip it to my belt. As Ozarkryder said it is muscle memory and just a normal habit for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoMtnSpyder View Post
    Only time I use the kill switch is at the gas pumps to shut off the engine so I can keep the ignition on.
    I never use the kill switch, but I'm interested in this option. Sounds like a great idea.
    I know you can open up the front trunk with the engine on.
    How do you get to the gas cap without first cycling the ignition switch through "off" ?
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    Just push down and turn key either direction

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    NOTE: it's always fun to hit the kill switch on your buddy's bike when he is parked and not looking....
    it's even more fun to do it to strangers bikes while they are in the 7-11 or other store.
    just sit outside and watch from across the parking lot.....hahahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcer960 View Post
    I never use the kill switch
    Only by accident--------

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    Thanks for all of the responses. To Ozarkryder, I did leave the ignition key on once which did drain the battery. As with everything it gave me a chance to test the lithium ion jumper. It worked great. I do believe (unless I'm mistaken, I don't have my manual handy) The manual suggest hitting the kill switch to first the shut off the bike. It looks like the opinions vary, but it doesn't seem like the sequence matters. Thanks again.

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