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Brake Failure Warning on 2008 Spyder. Dealer gave up
Hello, I own a 2008 Spyder. I bought it new and got one of the first ones. I have about 7,800 miles but I’ve run into an issue. I have a brake failure warning light that won’t turn off. I just brought it home from a certified BRP dealer. The bike spent 6 weeks there and they gave up unless I wanted to start replacing the ECU and other big prices items they said. They said to enjoy the bike with the warning pretty much. They did a brake bleed, new tires/wheels was done last year, battery, brakes/pads, fluid topped off. It didn’t help. Any suggestions? I greatly appreciate it!
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You said they did a brake bleed,did they replace the fluid? It should be done every 2 years regardless of mileage.
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Originally Posted by Rach4life
Hello, I own a 2008 Spyder. I bought it new and got one of the first ones. I have about 7,800 miles but I’ve run into an issue. I have a brake failure warning light that won’t turn off. I just brought it home from a certified BRP dealer. The bike spent 6 weeks there and they gave up unless I wanted to start replacing the ECU and other big prices items they said. They said to enjoy the bike with the warning pretty much. They did a brake bleed, new tires/wheels was done last year, battery, brakes/pads, fluid topped off. It didn’t help. Any suggestions? I greatly appreciate it!
They sure did a lot of things .... and didn't fix the issue .... I think they are a bunch of idiots, sooooooooooooooooo take off the brake reservoir caps ( and note how the caps are oriented, so you put them back on the same way ) ..... see how much fluid is in them and if not full, add a couplie of tablespoons of BRAKE fluid to each reservoir .... if you spill any wash off immediately after re-placing the caps ( correctly ) .... It may take a few start - ride a bit - and stop repeat to get the warning to clear .... good luck .... let us know if this worked ..... Mike
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Last edited by Bfromla; 08-27-2021 at 02:08 AM.
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Press brake pedal first click is brake lite switch if you get 2nd click that indicates low braking pressure usually caused by contaminated brake fluid. cure change fluid.
second brake reservoir caps have to be put on in a specific orientation or will not let fluid flow to master cylinder. If you are doing work your self get a set of speed bleeders, makes changing fluid one man job. Had this problem on 09.
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Did they reset the low pressure switch? Give this a try:
1) Turn the key on and press the button to clear the read safety card message
2) Press and hold the brake pedal past the second click. If you have good pressure this takes a lot of effort.
3) Turn the key off
4) Hold the brake pedal until the back light on the instrument cluster goes off (~30sec).
5) Release the brake pedal
Now turn the key on and check to see if the brake failure error is gone.
I use this method following a rear brake bleed when the error appears on mine. I need a new rear caliper it will let air into the system over a long period of time.
Good luck!
Bruce
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'08 Spyder GS
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Hello, no this didn’t work. Thanks does the tip though. I’ll check the other replies as well. I must admit I’m not quite handy though. I’ll check to see the work sheet as well. Thanks all
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Checking the level on the brake fluid per BK above is a good suggestion. I have had that happen many times and usually a teaspoon down will do it. A quick, easy, and inexpensive fix most of the time.
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Originally Posted by Rach4life
Hello, I own a 2008 Spyder. I bought it new and got one of the first ones. I have about 7,800 miles but I’ve run into an issue. I have a brake failure warning light that won’t turn off. I just brought it home from a certified BRP dealer. The bike spent 6 weeks there and they gave up unless I wanted to start replacing the ECU and other big prices items they said. They said to enjoy the bike with the warning pretty much. They did a brake bleed, new tires/wheels was done last year, battery, brakes/pads, fluid topped off. It didn’t help. Any suggestions? I greatly appreciate it!
When the brake failure warning is Active on your display, then there will be an Active trouble code stored that will be useful in diagnosing the issue. The dealer should have checked that and it may be listed on the paperwork. If not, you can call it up yourself.
With engine running and the warning active;
Press the mode button repeatedly until "engine hours" (total hours) shows on display. Make sure you do not release the mode button when you get to "engine hours"
While still holding the mode button. Flash high beams 5 times within 2 seconds.
If there are no active faults "No Active Fault Code" will be displayed.
If there is an active fault, an alphanumeric code will be displayed.
If there are more than one active code, you may press MODE to cycle through them.
Put the code in the forum’s search box in the upper right. More than likely you won’t be the first one and there will be a ton of information that you can check on when able. Let us know.
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my 2009 is my daily ride and I add a tablespoon of brake fluid approx every 10 days. At one point my parking brake was not working properly and would not come all the way up each time when I tried to release it. I replaced the springs and little gear thing. but I dunno if parking brake going haywire can give that message.
I do know after having this bike as a daily ride for 2.5 yrs --- keeping the brake fluid level in the front reservoir so the float pops up like a little bobber keeps the brake failure message away. I also wrap a small thin rag around the cap so any fluid that does come out of the cap the rag soaks it up. good luck!
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Hello, I had a 2008 Spyder RS with this issue. Found that the brake booster/reservoir was the issue, worked but sensor detected a pressure issue. Replaced the unit and all was fine? I was just purchasing the Spyder, so dealer covered parts and labor! Good luck.
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I'm being very ignorant here.
I also have an 08GS and have never seen a booster/reservoir on mine. A reservoir yes, but not a booster that detects pressure.
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Oldgoat, when I said brake booster, meant the master cylinder. The dealer I bought bike from just replaced the whole unit to solve the brake light issue. Thanks for catching my description mistake! Rach4life, good luck on solving your brake issue.
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Originally Posted by Don60
Oldgoat, when I said brake booster, meant the master cylinder. The dealer I bought bike from just replaced the whole unit to solve the brake light issue. Thanks for catching my description mistake! Rach4life, good luck on solving your brake issue.
no problem
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2007 Piaggio MP3 - 250cc
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Same On 2013
Not all the time but just once in awhile. Checked in the master cylinder and there is a plastic ring just floating p. Is that normal?
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