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Originally Posted by shardt
The 1330 is a high compression engine and needs the high octane fuel to run properly.
Optimally would be a more accurate term than properly. User experience shows that the "good enough" point of engine performance with regular is so close to the optimal point with premium there is no practical difference between them. As has been said several times throughout the years of this forum the high level of engine control enables this to be the case.
Lower octane fuel will cause detonation
Not so. Lower octane does not cause detonation. It simply will detonate more easily at lower temperature and pressure than will premium. If there is no feature such as sharp corners or carbon particles inside the combustion chamber that remain hot enough to ignite the fuel, detonation or pre ignition will not occur.
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Learning lots from this and the 2017 thread that Idaho started in 2017 (post 21). Almost as much fun as an oil or tire thread.
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Moderator stuff:
Two sides are lining up. Use high test, don't use high test.
Just reminding everyone to keep it friendly. SO FAR IT IS.
No need to make threats as to how the machine will blow up, etc. if you don't use high test. Each side has good reasons. Post them, but don't try to defend them with your life or as if your answer is the only one that counts.
We have all made our points pretty good so far. Your all welcome to do whatever you want. It will only affect you.
Me, I'm a big boy now and no one is going to change what I do. I have not damaged any of the five spyders that have been running my favorite grade.
Currently Owned: 2019 F3 Limited, 2020 F3 Limited: SOLD BOTH LIMITEDS in October of 2023.
Previously : 2008 GS-SM5 (silver), 2009 RS-SE5 (red), 2010 RT-S Premier Editon #474 (black) 2011 RT A&C SE5 (magnesium) 2014 RTS-SE6 (yellow)
MY FINAL TALLY: 7 Spyders, 15 years, 205,500 miles
IT HAS BEEN A LONG, WONDERFUL, AND FUN RIDE.
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It's your bike put in it what you want.
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I'm a new Spyder owner so I have no practical experience. When the tech at the dealership was going through everything with me on a new to me 2015 RT-Special he said regular gasoline was fine. I didn't even ask. My manual says to use Premium. Thanks for those above who did the math on costs. (I hate math.) I'm thinking I'll run Premium.
Here Ari explains it: https://youtu.be/z_IVvVz4SSg
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Where I am, currently gas is $3.79 a gallon for regular and $3.99 a gallon for premium. On a five gallon fill up, that's a difference of about a buck. Not worth going cheap, throw in the good stuff.
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Although I use regular plus 10% ethanol, thankfully, cost factors have never been a consideration. I explained my rationale above.
Our current pricing is $2.79 for regular and about 40 cents a gallon higher for the premium.
Currently Owned: 2019 F3 Limited, 2020 F3 Limited: SOLD BOTH LIMITEDS in October of 2023.
Previously : 2008 GS-SM5 (silver), 2009 RS-SE5 (red), 2010 RT-S Premier Editon #474 (black) 2011 RT A&C SE5 (magnesium) 2014 RTS-SE6 (yellow)
MY FINAL TALLY: 7 Spyders, 15 years, 205,500 miles
IT HAS BEEN A LONG, WONDERFUL, AND FUN RIDE.
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The 1330 engine does have a knock sensor. So if you do experience some form of pre-detonation, caused by too low of an octane, the knock sensor should pull timing and reduce overall performance at any given moment. Generally, if you're hard out on a hot day (high intake temperatures), you're more likely to see some performance issues if you burn regular. Cooler days and moderate driving, you may never notice the difference. Many other factors involved in causing pre-detonation other than gas octane, mostly those that affect lambda, like dirty injectors, dirty air filters, cam chain wear, etc.
Bottom line is that each person (and each engine) will experience different results. Results do vary.
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