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Noob: How many "stupid" questions do I get?? This is a paint question.
Here's one. Let me know when I've met my quota!
My study tells me that matte paint gets treated differently than gloss.
My 2015 "denim blue" is a bit faded and I cannot judge if it was glossy to start with or matte.
Anyone know if the '15 model year did matte paint on the ST?
Or does anyone have a good way of determining gloss v matte finish?
I'm wanting to spiff things up a bit: thorough cleaning, perhaps a clay rub down, wax or one of the "ceramic" products to finish (any bull's eye advice on that process? I'm listening.)
Thanks, ladies and gentlemen
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The matte finish has a very slight texture finish..... not smooth like glass. Hope this helps, and, welcome to SLs...... Jim
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If matte, there are polishes made for that at auto supply stores. So not use the kind of polish made for gloss finishes. Good luck.
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Hey guys
thanks for the warm affirmation. I figured there was no rule about questions and on other forums I've been the one with the experience and responded to noob's questions just as you did. Never thought to ask where vehicle identification info, e.g. paint codes, might be listed. I'll go out to the garage and take a look right after I hit <RETURN>
I'm missing my two wheel transport, but health and age demanded I stop riding. My wife said "Why not three wheels?" Voila! a 2015 ST! She wouldn't ride with me on the 'cycle. She's now bugging me to go out on the Spyder. She and I took the intro to three wheeled cycles offered here and she did great. She's talking about Spokane, Coeur d'Alene, Cranbrook and Bozeman trip this fall. I'm a lucky guy. OK: check for paint code
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Never found any sticker that revealed a paint code. Looking at the body and under the seat and other places where the sun don't shine I'm guessing it's a matte finish 'cause it sure ain't shiny anywhere.
Recommendations for a non-wax product for my blue-jean Spyder?
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Just looked Lamonster's site where he put a paint code listing.
It says for 2015 that "denim blue" has a "satin finish." There are no matte colors for that year, there are glossy, pearl and metallic. Some colors have no added description. So it's NOT matte, but satin.
Which prompts another question: regular wax or something else??
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My previous 2015 ST L is matte denim blue. Yours is definitely matte.
They make a special soap and polish for matte colors.
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Gilda— Since you are a woman and you ride a Spyder it follows that I ought not underestimate you. I bow to your experience with a denim blue ST-L and say "Thank you" for straightening me out!
I'll hunt down the correct matte paint care products.
thanks again!
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Originally Posted by Columbia
Gilda— Since you are a woman and you ride a Spyder it follows that I ought not underestimate you. I bow to your experience with a denim blue ST-L and say "Thank you" for straightening me out!
I'll hunt down the correct matte paint care products.
thanks again!
No paint guru. But my understanding is that there is 'Gloss' and then different levels of 'Matte'. Satin needs a different treatment than a gloss finish. You can convert it to a Gloss finish with coats of clear gloss over the top. Not sure about plastic though.
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BajaRon et al—
I've been reading the interweb's many articles on gloss v matte v satin and the consensus is that each is different and each requires its own wash/care products and practices. Who knew? Not me. Since BRP calls the 2015 Denim Blue "Satin" I guess it's satin. Fortunately caring for satin is little different from matte. I think I'll pretend it's matte and wash/treat accordingly.
Thanks, everyone: this question opened up a world I'd never investigated: vehicle finishes. (BTW "matte", I learned isn't a paint, it's a finish, much like "gloss" is the result of clear coats on top of the color paint layers below.)
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Originally Posted by Columbia
BajaRon et al—
I've been reading the interweb's many articles on gloss v matte v satin and the consensus is that each is different and each requires its own wash/care products and practices. Who knew? Not me. Since BRP calls the 2015 Denim Blue "Satin" I guess it's satin. Fortunately caring for satin is little different from matte. I think I'll pretend it's matte and wash/treat accordingly.
Thanks, everyone: this question opened up a world I'd never investigated: vehicle finishes. (BTW "matte", I learned isn't a paint, it's a finish, much like "gloss" is the result of clear coats on top of the color paint layers below.)
The type of finish (matte, etc.) is actually determined by the chemistry of the paint or clear coat. It's not an "add-on" that can be applied later. Clear coat, like the paint, also has a "finish" that is determined by its chemistry.
Exactly how it's done, I haven't a clue; paint chemistry is beyond my pay grade for sure. But when you buy the paint, the finish is determined by the mix of compounds in the base stock. The color is added in the tinting process. Clear coat is the final, outside layer intended to preserve what's underneath.
Pretty cool stuff if you care I suppose. Paints - and other coatings - represent a process where both science and art contribute to the result.
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Recently traded our 2015 Denim Blue ST after 5 years. Beautiful color, but never noticed any fading. It surely is a 'matte' finish but still had a little shine (IMO).
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My (former) Spyder was done in Platinum Silver Satin finish. I don't know the difference between that and "matte" but thought they were pretty much the same. There was a texture to the finish. It did have some shine but was not glossy. Inside the frunk there was a sticker on the lid that said to not use polishes or waxes. That could result in a blotchy looking finish. Instead I just used very mild detergent and water. I think you can Google Can Am Satin finishes and find the straight scoop about care..... Jim
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