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    Default Anyone else discovered oil Porosity on their new engines? 2020 RT

    I bought my New 2020 Spyder RT at Dealer “A” in February of this year, it had 1.2 miles on it. After I got it home, I found the Valve cover heavily corrected and oil leaking on the exhaust. I brought it back to Dealer “A” and they replaced the valve cover and troubleshooted the oil leak to the best of their abilities. It still leaked after dealer “A” “fixed it”, So now I enlisted the help of dealer “B” With the direction of BRP it was determined to be coming from the oil pan in the middle of the engine. They gave the go ahead to remove the engine to make the repair. Just to make sure everyone understands removing the engine is major, it requires you to strip off every component and panel in the center section and front of the bike. They removed and replaced the gasket and serval internal O-Rings on the matting flange. This whole process with dealer “B” took more than a month. Last week I was told that they would have it all put back together and have it running. Which they finally did. The only problem is that it’s still leaking from a new place. So now I’m back to square one with an oil leak and no bike. I have asked PRP to please just replace the engine or the bike. Unfortunately for me they said no, we don’t want to replace your engine. Apparently, the fix is to take some special epoxy and use it as a barrier to prevent oil from leaking from the area on the case where the porosity is. Any one else seeing this issue.

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    As I stated in your other post that is a H.S repair. Why not just put bubble gum on it.

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    Another Spyder owner who posts on SL experienced an engine porosity problem and BRP replaced the engine.
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    Would be nice if I could get in contact with him.

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    Here's the link. Read Post #71. Good luck!

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    This porosity engine issue was seen on several 2014 1330 back when first introduced...I just recently seen another new owner of a 2020 or a 2021 that had the same issue but BRP replaced his complete engine...As far as I know BRP replaced all the engines back in 2014...I seen one at my dealer being replaced and it was a MAJOR task...

    I WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTING A EPOXY FIX...

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    Is that H.S.= Horse ***** or Highly sanctioned repair? LOL

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    Does Ohio have a "Lemon Law"?
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    Yes sure does. I will most likely use it if I don’t get a new engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBros View Post
    Another Spyder owner who posts on SL experienced an engine porosity problem and BRP replaced the engine.
    What is engine 'porosity'? I've never heard of such a thing in metal.
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    What is porosity you might ask? Porosity in metal is a manufacturing defect that can leave your engine vulnerable to a wide range of potential problems like an oil leak. Why does this happen? As metal cools and hardens, it also shrinks. This shrinkage may result in the formation of pores, which could adversely affect the metal’s structural integrity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolick22 View Post
    What is porosity you might ask? Porosity in metal is a manufacturing defect that can leave your engine vulnerable to a wide range of potential problems like an oil leak. Why does this happen? As metal cools and hardens, it also shrinks. This shrinkage may result in the formation of pores, which could adversely affect the metal’s structural integrity.
    That's interesting. I didn't know that. Thanks.
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    GM had trouble with aluminum pickup wheels that leaked for the same reason. The fix was to apply silicon sealer to the inside of the wheel. Which is also H.S.
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    This is at least number two, that has had this problem with that year!!! Good luck guy's!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolick22 View Post
    ...I enlisted the help of dealer “B” With the direction of BRP it was determined to be coming from the oil pan in the middle of the engine. They gave the go ahead to remove the engine to make the repair. Just to make sure everyone understands removing the engine is major, it requires you to strip off every component and panel in the center section and front of the bike.

    They removed and replaced the gasket and serval internal O-Rings on the matting flange. This whole process with dealer “B” took more than a month. Last week I was told that they would have it all put back together and have it running. Which they finally did. The only problem is that it’s still leaking from a new place. So now I’m back to square one with an oil leak and no bike. I have asked PRP to please just replace the engine or the bike. Apparently, the fix is to take some special epoxy and use it as a barrier to prevent oil from leaking from the area on the case where the porosity is.
    Isn't the oil pan separate from the engine block? If so, wouldn't it make sense just to replace the oil pan rather than the entire engine? What am I missing?
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    That was the first leak. I think it was right where the oil pan meets the two halves. Now the new leak is some place different then the first leak. I’m really uncertain where the second one is at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolick22 View Post
    That was the first leak. I think it was right where the oil pan meets the two halves. Now the new leak is some place different then the first leak. I’m really uncertain where the second one is at this point.
    Where would they apply the epoxy then? What a conundrum.
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    Hope to find out

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    I have a 2021 RTL and had a leak when new that seemed to go away, until I did my 2nd oil change at 7000 miles. The oil was running down the front of the engine on the right side and running along the bottom of the engine on the right side. The dealer replaced the oil cooler o rings/gasket. First ride 150 to 200 miles no leak, 2nd ride 150 to 200 miles oil was back but not as much. I stripped off the plastic on the right side and started it up and taped my throttle at 2500 to 3000 RPM's. After 20 to 30 minutes of watching and wiping I found a plug by the oil filter housing leaking a very small amount. I got an allen wrench on it and tightened it about 1/8 turn and the leak stopped. I've been about 700 miles since and found it dry after each ride. It was the allen head screw between the filter housing and the wire loom in the picture.
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