today I installed some LED rear turn signal bulbs. Nice and bright, but now I have hyper flash. Tried Lamonster's method and Tricled's and neither worked. I may have to result to adding a resistor. If I do go that route where do I need to install it?
1. 2018 F3 Limited
2. changed rear turn signals using 1056 BAU15S 7507 12496 1156PY PY21W Amber Non-Polarity 2835 39-SMD 9-30V LED bulbs
3. tried the Lamonster method to eliminate hyper flash - did not work
4. tried TricLED method - did not work
5. If I need a resistor, what value and where do I need to add it?
Thx
Rick
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 05-09-2021 at 10:18 PM.
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Hyper flash is caused by the signal system not having enough load - throw back from years gone by to alert the operator that a bulb was not working. There are LED signal flashers that are designed to eliminate hyper flash. Had this issue on my '85 Goldwing. Installed LED signal bulbs and then added this LED signal flasher. Works well. Took a video with my cell of the new led signal lights with the OEM flasher, and a video with the LED flasher installed, significant difference. Attached is a picture of the 3 prong LED flasher. Need the 3 prong flasher for auto signal cancellation, at least I needed the 3 prong on my Goldwing. There is a pin for the power to the flasher, one that goes out to the signal lights. The third prong goes to the self cancelling unit. The self cancelling unit provides an easier ground for the power to the flasher, and as such, power to the signal lights is cancelled.
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8 ohm 50 W resistor across the two leads to the bulbs. 2018 and up can not be fixed with trick programming.
I bought these thinking it would be plug and play. However the bulb sockets were different. So I cut wires and installed them without the plug and play. You can get 8 ohm 50w resistors by themselves cheaper.
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(Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.
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Not sure about differences with the '18 models, but I had similar experience with my wife's '17 RT-S.
Nothing worked until I tried LaMonster's procedure WITH THE ENGINE RUNNING.
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Does not work on the 2018+
2018 RT Ltd - Asphalt Metallic - East Valley of Phoenix
2018 RT Ltd Chrome - Champagne Metallic - Lake Stevens, Wa
(Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.
Things that move between machines: Ikea sheep skins, Zumo XT GPS, and extra tools. Hooker is going to be my summer trike up North; and Hookie my winter trike down South.
(Asphalt/Hookie) Elka shocks on front - BajaRon sway bar, OEM driver's backrest, LED headlights, dual USB with voltmeter, dash cam, foam grips - Magic Mirrors - front tires Vredestein Quatrac SL on PPA ORB Chrome wheels.
today I installed some LED rear turn signal bulbs. Nice and bright, but now I have hyper flash. Tried Lamonster's method and Tricled's and neither worked. I may have to result to adding a resistor. If I do go that route where do I need to install it?
Thx
If it's anything like a car you would need one for each side and make sure to keep them "AWAY" from anything that might melt. Those things get very hot.
I'm sure someone else will chime in on the location.
on my Harley I had a 'little black box' that I attached to the bike and it took care of all LED changes no matter where. would be nice if such a thing existed as I may want to add more LEDs and don't want to have to add a resistor for each one of them.
It works on my 2018 F3 Ltd .... of course, all my add-on LEDs are either from Lamont or Harvey "Spyderpops" Clark. That might explain why the hyperflash will reset in every case -- tried, true, and tested before bringing to market.
All the best ... Ann
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Canbus enabled. These would be running lights, brake lights and turn signals for my 2019 F3 base
2019 F3 base
Shad saddlebags with Admore led light kit
BajaRon swaybar
Hopnel mini bra
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Madstad windshield
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I replaced my rear turn signals with LEDs and replaced my backup lights with LEDs slaved to the turn signals. The reprogramming method, at least for me, doesn't last. After a few hundred miles, the turn signals flash normally for about 30 seconds and then hyperflash. I had these https://www.superbrightleds.com/more...g-fix/190/831/ from another project and will be installing them as part of my changing the fog lights to LEDs that are slaved to the turn signals (no signals, both fogs lit; turn signal, on fog flashes and other dark). I'm using three Timers Shop programmable relays.
rednaxs60 -- I think the 30 year difference in electronics will not support your solution. The turn signal functions in the left grip generate CANbus messages and the dashboard takes it from there. I believe only an applique of some sort on the lamp wires will work. But I'm ready to be wrong (it happens).
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Here's my solution to hyperflash: Hyperflash solved - no resistors
2021 Spyder RTL. I tried installing LED rear signal light bulbs from Superbrite LED's but could not stop the hyperflash (very rapid blinking) using the Lamonster method. I found LED bulbs WITH built in resistors and the correct BAU15S base. PITA to remove the rear body work to get at the bulbs, but well worth the $30 for 2 bulbs. BTW, a 7/32 socket can be used instead of the 5.5mm socket called for in the DIY instructions.
WDAVEY -- I bought my LED bulbs at superbrightleds.com. As I recall the resistor versions were about half the lumens of the non-resistor versions. What did your comparison show?
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Bert. My first set of LED bulbs was from superbrightleds. I could not solve the hyperflash using any of the "methods". I did not see any bulbs from superbirghtleds that had built in resistors and did not want to start cutting into the wiring on my brand new '21 RTL. I found LED's with the correct base (pins are at 150*, not 180*) and a built in resistor at Auxito.com. I don't recall the lumen values, but the Auxito bulbs are VERY bright! They have a lens at the end that seems to focus all the light towards the rear. Website has numbers that I don't understand.
WDAVEY -- 2800 lumens plus end-firing focusing lens. That's awesome. About the same lumens as my LED fog lights. And ten times the lumens of my SBL 7507s. The current difference matches (2A vs 0.2A) the lumens so I gotta believe their performance claims. And the construction is awesome too -- long body with both cooling ribs and cooling vents. I'm going to buy a pair tonight. Thanks.
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WDAVEY -- I installed the Auxito 7507 turn signal bulbs today and here is the comparison with my SBL 7507: SBL vs Auxito.jpg
Way brighter (the picture really doesn't show how much). And Yes I slaved my reverse lights to the turn signals.
Thanks for sharing your find with us.
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I contacted Auxito about 1157 bulbs for my 2019 F3 base. Although not stated on their webpage, an e-mail from them indicated they were CANBUS enabled. I order two red led’s, and should have them in a couple of weeks. I will report back on how they work out.
Rick
2019 F3 base
Shad saddlebags with Admore led light kit
BajaRon swaybar
Hopnel mini bra
BRP driver's backrest
Madstad windshield
Ultimate floorboards
CanAm Spyder accessories rear shelf with LinQ adapter