NOT HAPPY WITH MY SPYDER!!!

[fleet2904]

SO... SPYDER RUNNING REALLY BAD TRIED ADJUSTING THE JB.... NOTHING HAPPENS STILL RUNS LIKE S&$^... THEN FOUND OIL IN MY AIR BOX.. HAVE NOW CLUE WHY...

ALL I HAVE IS THE JB.. AND TB SINGLE EXHAUST...

ANY ANSWER!!!!!!

[Firefly]

SO... SPYDER RUNNING REALLY BAD TRIED ADJUSTING THE JB.... NOTHING HAPPENS STILL RUNS LIKE S&$^... THEN FOUND OIL IN MY AIR BOX.. HAVE NOW CLUE WHY...

ALL I HAVE IS THE JB.. AND TB SINGLE EXHAUST...

ANY ANSWER!!!!!!

Need more info:

How old is Spyder?
Which Model?
HAve you had recent updates done?

Oil in the airbox is normal.

If the problem is 'stuttering' around 3000 - 4000 RPMs --- it's most likely due to the new steering update-- which also made changes to the purge valve.

Do a search out here for Purge Valve or Evap Canister------

[fleet2904]

Need more info:

How old is Spyder?
Which Model?
HAve you had recent updates done?

Oil in the airbox is normal.

If the problem is 'stuttering' around 3000 - 4000 RPMs --- it's most likely due to the new steering update-- which also made changes to the purge valve.

Do a search out here for Purge Valve or Evap Canister------

its a 2008.. with 2600 miles.sm5. onthing on it is the two brothers exhaust and juice box...... that is what is happing at 3000-4000 rpms... stuttering... not a very nice sound....

[bone crusher]

its a 2008.. with 2600 miles.sm5. onthing on it is the two brothers exhaust and juice box...... that is what is happing at 3000-4000 rpms... stuttering... not a very nice sound....

Although what Fire is recommending is working for many, I'm not one to perform surgery on my bike to fix what should have been a simple update...

I'd go to the dealer and have them poke around. The bike is under warranty and they should be willing to help you.

As far as removing parts from the bike and fiddling around, you might void your warranty, depending on what the dealer thinks...

[Capt John]

its a 2008.. with 2600 miles.sm5. onthing on it is the two brothers exhaust and juice box...... that is what is happing at 3000-4000 rpms... stuttering... not a very nice sound....

Keep adjusting your JB. Mine always had low speed surging and sputtering in the 3800-4200 range, even before the update. I did not purchase the JB until after the update and I'm still tweaking it. I have a Hindle and green air filter. My last settings, which so far are working real good are .5,7,7,7,2,2 I have no surging, so far in the 3800-4200 range, but I've only put 100 miles on it since I've changed settings. The previous settings were .5,6,6,7,.5,.5 and I was getting surging in the same range.

[bone crusher]

Keep adjusting your JB. Mine always had low speed surging and sputtering in the 3800-4200 range, even before the update. I did not purchase the JB until after the update and I'm still tweaking it. I have a Hindle and green air filter. My last settings, which so far are working real good are .5,7,7,7,2,2 I have no surging, so far in the 3800-4200 range, but I've only put 100 miles on it since I've changed settings. The previous settings were .5,6,6,7,.5,.5 and I was getting surging in the same range.

I didn't realize you were getting surging before the update....I haven't been on the bike enough since the update to really fiddle with the JB...hope to get some miles in sooner or later...will be fun to play with the JB again...

[krb1945]

my 2008 SM5 did the same thing after the update. It has the Hindle. Mine was running fine until the update. after that it spit, sputtered and surged. I have a temp solution that helped mine until I can get it back to the dealer. Part of the problem seems to be low back pressure on the Hindles and TBSs.
I pushed a walmart stainless pot scrubber pad in the end of the muffler. It now runs just like it did before the update... smooooooooooth... no spitting, sputtering or surging and plenty of power to smoke the tire.

I'm certain some are laughing about this but it is working and it doesn't put much b/p on the system. Just enough to help it run normally.

[Batmobile]

SO... SPYDER RUNNING REALLY BAD TRIED ADJUSTING THE JB.... NOTHING HAPPENS STILL RUNS LIKE S&$^... THEN FOUND OIL IN MY AIR BOX.. HAVE NOW CLUE WHY...

ALL I HAVE IS THE JB.. AND TB SINGLE EXHAUST...

ANY ANSWER!!!!!!

First dealer I went to didn't do everything they were supposed to during the update and I had the same results as you. No matter how I adjusted JB it didn't help. Tried another dealer they redid the download, recalibrated everything and cleared out all of the fault codes, and now it runs great again. I would have dealer try again if it was me.

[bone crusher]

First dealer I went to didn't do everything they were supposed to during the update and I had the same results as you. No matter how I adjusted JB it didn't help. Tried another dealer they redid the download, recalibrated everything and cleared out all of the fault codes, and now it runs great again. I would have dealer try again if it was me.

Yupster!

[sabunim5]

I pushed a walmart stainless pot scrubber pad in the end of the muffler. It now runs just like it did before the update... smooooooooooth... no spitting, sputtering or surging and plenty of power to smoke the tire.

I'm certain some are laughing about this but it is working and it doesn't put much b/p on the system. Just enough to help it run normally. __________________
"The Ancient Warrior"


sometimes the simplest solutions are the best.

[krb1945]

going back to the dealer for another try at the update? The walmart stainless scrubber is only a temporary fix.

What I was really doing was toning the Hindle down a bit but it worked for the other problem too!

[fleet2904]

First dealer I went to didn't do everything they were supposed to during the update and I had the same results as you. No matter how I adjusted JB it didn't help. Tried another dealer they redid the download, recalibrated everything and cleared out all of the fault codes, and now it runs great again. I would have dealer try again if it was me.

I HAVE BEEN CALLING AROUND IN CT.. AND TALKING TO DIFFERENT DEALERS AND THE MECHS... SOME KNOW WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT AND SOME DONT HAVE A CLUE.. BUT IAM GOING TO TAKE IT TO ANOTHER DEALER AND GET THEM TO LOOK AT IT...

[bone crusher]

I HAVE BEEN CALLING AROUND IN CT.. AND TALKING TO DIFFERENT DEALERS AND THE MECHS... SOME KNOW WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT AND SOME DONT HAVE A CLUE.. BUT IAM GOING TO TAKE IT TO ANOTHER DEALER AND GET THEM TO LOOK AT IT...

That's your best bet...save the pot scrubber for the pots!

[Tom in NM]

my 2008 SM5 did the same thing after the update. It has the Hindle. Mine was running fine until the update. after that it spit, sputtered and surged. I have a temp solution that helped mine until I can get it back to the dealer. Part of the problem seems to be low back pressure on the Hindles and TBSs.
I pushed a walmart stainless pot scrubber pad in the end of the muffler. It now runs just like it did before the update... smooooooooooth... no spitting, sputtering or surging and plenty of power to smoke the tire.

I'm certain some are laughing about this but it is working and it doesn't put much b/p on the system. Just enough to help it run normally.

KRB, yeah, it sounds funny, but it is very clever. For those people with after market pipes and update problems, this should be a test they perform along with the evap canister pinching. Each separately and together.

And yes, ( as you say above ) it is a temporary mod, but it will sure help in diagnosing where a problem is or isn't.

Tom

[krb1945]

and the SM5 with the Hindle and pot scrubber is running "smooth as silk". No hesitation from the back pressure just pure raw horse power wanting to run.

No surge, no spitting, no sputtering and no hesitation. I really like a smooth running engine. Even if part of it does come from Wal-Mart.

[ataDude]

Hey, Ken. How're the GL1800 exhausts coming along?
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and the SM5 with the Hindle and pot scrubber is running "smooth as silk". No hesitation from the back pressure just pure raw horse power wanting to run.

No surge, no spitting, no sputtering and no hesitation. I really like a smooth running engine. Even if part of it does come from Wal-Mart.

[fleet2904]

Did you talk to Bob Jr. at Gargano's?

yea.. there mech.... gave me lots of info on whats been going on.... they where the ones to do the update on my spyder..... i called land and sea... they seemed alittle more friendly and informative....

[Firefly]

I HAVE BEEN CALLING AROUND IN CT.. AND TALKING TO DIFFERENT DEALERS AND THE MECHS... SOME KNOW WHAT IAM TALKING ABOUT AND SOME DONT HAVE A CLUE.. BUT IAM GOING TO TAKE IT TO ANOTHER DEALER AND GET THEM TO LOOK AT IT...

Just a FYI on netiquette---- typing in ALL CAPS is considered YELLING on the internet....

[Cliff-Co.]

my 2008 SM5 did the same thing after the update. It has the Hindle. Mine was running fine until the update. after that it spit, sputtered and surged. I have a temp solution that helped mine until I can get it back to the dealer. Part of the problem seems to be low back pressure on the Hindles and TBSs.
I pushed a walmart stainless pot scrubber pad in the end of the muffler. It now runs just like it did before the update... smooooooooooth... no spitting, sputtering or surging and plenty of power to smoke the tire.

I'm certain some are laughing about this but it is working and it doesn't put much b/p on the system. Just enough to help it run normally.

What did ya use ta keep the pot scrubber, in the muffler ??, mine blew out after a few , so i used copper wire ta tie it in muffler

[BLACK WIDOW]

Just a FYI on netiquette---- typing in ALL CAPS is considered YELLING on the internet....

But you can type faster with all caps-----Don't have to fiddle with the SHIFT key.

[Smylinacha]

If you talk to Bobby Jr., it might save you a trip to Waterbury........

and Bobby Jr. knows his stuff too

[stgilmer]

First dealer I went to didn't do everything they were supposed to during the update and I had the same results as you. No matter how I adjusted JB it didn't help. Tried another dealer they redid the download, recalibrated everything and cleared out all of the fault codes, and now it runs great again. I would have dealer try again if it was me.

Rode mine for the first time today after the update. Surging,sputtering in 4th gear 3500-4000 rpm(real bad). So I need to have the update done again? And tell them to reset codes, I don't know much about all this stuff, I just ride it. Can I get some help in what exactly I need to tell them when I take it back in. Desperate to get it running like before, all I have is a Hindle, nothin else. Thanks Guys.

[Zerocool]

yea.. there mech.... gave me lots of info on whats been going on.... they where the ones to do the update on my spyder..... i called land and sea... they seemed alittle more friendly and informative....

Had my update done at Gargano's by Bob Jr. about 500 miles ago and have had NO issues with my

How long have you had your ? Meaning, how many miles?

It might not be the update, rather your may still be breaking in. I experienced sputtering, surging, backfiring, etc. (Hindle exhaust) during the first 600 hundred miles UNTIL I got her up on the highway and rode her hard and steady. Some of this may have been due to me being new to riding

Just a thought. Maybe we'll be able to hook up for a ride some time and compare notes

[fleet2904]

Had my update done at Gargano's by Bob Jr. about 500 miles ago and have had NO issues with my

How long have you had your ? Meaning, how many miles?

It might not be the update, rather your may still be breaking in. I experienced sputtering, surging, backfiring, etc. (Hindle exhaust) during the first 600 hundred miles UNTIL I got her up on the highway and rode her hard and steady. Some of this may have been due to me being new to riding

Just a thought. Maybe we'll be able to hook up for a ride some time and compare notes

I have about 2600 miles on it now.. i had about 2200 on it when i did the update soo... i just hope that brp hurry's up and comes out with a fix with this problem...... lets meet up sometime and do a ride.. sounds good.. send me an email at kodykee@comcast.net......

[stgilmer]

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Originally Posted by Batmobile
First dealer I went to didn't do everything they were supposed to during the update and I had the same results as you. No matter how I adjusted JB it didn't help. Tried another dealer they redid the download, recalibrated everything and cleared out all of the fault codes, and now it runs great again. I would have dealer try again if it was me.

Rode mine for the first time today after the update. Surging,sputtering in 4th gear 3500-4000 rpm(real bad). So I need to have the update done again? And tell them to reset codes, I don't know much about all this stuff, I just ride it. Can I get some help in what exactly I need to tell them when I take it back in. Desperate to get it running like before, all I have is a Hindle, nothin else. Thanks Guys.

Called my dealer this morning to see if I could get a response and she called BRP while I was on hold. They seem to be blaming the problems on aftermarket stuff being put on, what gets me heated is I have the hindle, now isn't that their product??? I can uderstand if you bought stuff from other companies but COME ON, your own product. Saw on BRP site that they are very aware of complaints, fingers crossed for fix soon.