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    Question Muffler delete F3 S SS

    Been searching internet including this forum and finding no answer. Has anyone just disconnected the muffler not messing with cat and just putting on an exhaust pipe (no muffler)? How would it look and sound? Thinking I could just disconnect the muffler and hear how it would sound?

    Louder sound is good but the stock muffler is just plain big and ugly. Can't find a ready made one but thinking it might be an easy job at a auto muffler shop.
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    Check out RLS, he's a sponsor on this site, and tho I never dealt with him, it sounds to me, he's an exhaust guru, for better sound, you can get a cat delete pipe, with o.e.m. exhaust, that will result in a more deeper tone/rumble.
    or go with a complete kit from RLS, there are tons of options.
    I for myself, made my own cat delete, and welded an aftermarket acropovic to my F3sIMG_20201027_081608.jpgIMG_20201027_081608.jpg
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    The muffler matches the rest of the Bike. Not a beauty contest winner.
    You have my attention about deleting the cat. On my 19 HD I was able to drill out the cat with a holesaw and some scraping. Hadn't considered that yet for the 21 BRP yet.

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    RLS Pipe......

    You will never get a V-twin rumble from a 1330 engine. It is a high revving triple.

    Switching to glass pack will give you more of a MotoGP sound on the 1330.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coastie View Post
    Been searching internet including this forum and finding no answer. Has anyone just disconnected the muffler not messing with cat and just putting on an exhaust pipe (no muffler)? How would it look and sound? Thinking I could just disconnect the muffler and hear how it would sound?

    Louder sound is good but the stock muffler is just plain big and ugly. Can't find a ready made one but thinking it might be an easy job at a auto muffler shop.
    Simple to try. Loosen one clamp bolt and slide off the muffler. The OEM muffle is chambered, so it "likely" reduces sound more than the cat. I'm guess a exhaust/muffler shop could bend/expand a pipe to fit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoginedgewood View Post
    The muffler matches the rest of the Bike. Not a beauty contest winner. ...
    That is going to make some folks mad. I glad you said it - not me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troop View Post
    Simple to try. Loosen one clamp bolt and slide off the muffler. The OEM muffle is chambered, so it "likely" reduces sound more than the cat. I'm guess a exhaust/muffler shop could bend/expand a pipe to fit.
    That what I am thinking and if needed a simple slip on muffler could finish it is the exhaust pipe needed a cover.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwolf View Post


    .... You will never get a V-twin rumble from a 1330 engine. It is a high revving triple.
    I am OK with that. Just want a slimmer and not ugly exhaust.
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    Correct me if I am wrong........but it sounds like you want an open exhaust, if so, you are absolutely nuts...

    Super loud exhausts are one of, if not the major causes of negative impressions of our industry and avocation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old Timer View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong........but it sounds like you want an open exhaust, if so, you are absolutely nuts...

    Super loud exhausts are one of, if not the major causes of negative impressions of our industry and avocation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by old Timer View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong........but it sounds like you want an open exhaust, if so, you are absolutely nuts...

    Super loud exhausts are one of, if not the major causes of negative impressions of our industry and avocation.
    I think the OEM cat quiets the exhaust a good amount. Doesn't cost anything to try..


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    Quote Originally Posted by old Timer View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong........but it sounds like you want an open exhaust, if so, you are absolutely nuts...
    Yes, I am that's why I also ride a Harley too.

    Seriously, I am looking for a less ugly and slimmer exhaust. I don't particularly want to have to spend a lot of money for one of the custom exhaust to do that. Sound one being louder is just a secondary benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troop View Post
    I think the OEM cat quiets the exhaust a good amount. Doesn't cost anything to try..
    Exactly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoginedgewood View Post
    The muffler matches the rest of the Bike. Not a beauty contest winner.
    You have my attention about deleting the cat. On my 19 HD I was able to drill out the cat with a holesaw and some scraping. Hadn't considered that yet for the 21 BRP yet.
    Don't want to delete cat because I have read differing opinions on it while Spyder is under warranty. Plus looking for a cheaper way to remove stock muffler.
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    @coastie, I made my acropovic, in a way, I can always put back my o.e.m. Cat and exhaust, Nowadays overhere in the Netherlands, the discussion bout louder exchausts is firing up again.
    the funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's to late to stop reading it........

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    Made the change yesterday for about $20 for 2 1/4 " muffler pipe elbow, muffler clamp and black engine paint. Sounds about the same but don't have to carry around that big ugly muffler.

    Now to figure out an easy way to take off the muffler hanger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coastie View Post
    Made the change yesterday for about $14. 2 1/4 " muffler pipe elbow + 2 1/4 to 2 1/2" adapter + muffler clamp. Sounds about the same but don't have to carry around that big ugly muffler. Painting it flat black tomorrow. The engine paint was $19 - more than the "muffler."

    Now to figure out an easy way to take off the muffler hanger.
    I like the idea, but we need a picture and a sound clip
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    Quote Originally Posted by mully View Post
    I like the idea, but we need a picture and a sound clip
    I'll put a picture on my list of things to do. Not so sure I can do a sound clip.

    First got to take off new tail pipe to paint it. Have to put stock exhaust back on to take Spyder to local dealer maybe Tuesday. The cover over the coolant seems to be too small. The front tab won't stay caught at about 50 or above. Lifts up front of cover and wind vibration might break it. If was going to dealer where I bought it (80 miles away), I wouldn't bother to put muffler back on but due to local dealer's reputation, I think I better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    Some guy's never grow up!!!
    If you mean me, I am trying not to grow up or maybe I mean maybe old!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coastie View Post
    Don't want to delete cat because I have read differing opinions on it while Spyder is under warranty. Plus looking for a cheaper way to remove stock muffler.
    Cat- delete was done the same day, as I got the engine tuned, 1330 engine needs proper air/ fuel ratio's and exhaustpressure.

    Did not go over, one night ice... ghegheghe
    the funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's to late to stop reading it........

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    And Before going to a dealer, which is in no way my intent, I can always put back o.e.m. software, and cat with exhaust
    the funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's to late to stop reading it........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piratezz View Post
    Did not go over, one night ice... ghegheghe
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    öne night ice, is a phrase, we often use in the netherlands, means like if it has only frozen one night, do not get on the ice.
    first think, before do. hope this expalnation, makes the more clear...
    the funniest thing about this particular signature is that by the time you realise it doesn't say anything it's to late to stop reading it........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coastie View Post
    Made the change yesterday for about $14. 2 1/4 " muffler pipe elbow + 2 1/4 to 2 1/2" adapter + muffler clamp. Sounds about the same but don't have to carry around that big ugly muffler. Painting it flat black tomorrow. The engine paint was $19 - more than the "muffler."

    Now to figure out an easy way to take off the muffler hanger.
    Locally, a few years ago, there was a 1330 powered RT that had a similar setup as you describe. Essentially running the converter and no muffler, but had a very short downturn stub pipe.

    I was able to ride with them both in town and on the highway. It was pretty loud. Certainly seemed a bunch louder than our Spyder which is also an RT with a 1330, but runs a bypass pipe and stock muffler.

    A few months later I saw the Spyder again, they had gone with I believe it was a stock muffler and bypass pipe. Reason was with the exhaust outlet so far forward, and being as loud as it was, it was just too much.

    I have retained our converter, sits on a shelf. About three years ago I also made exactly what you described. I never took the time to reinstall the converter and with it the stub pipe. Maybe someday, or maybe not.

    Our greatest benefit was heat reduction, and that is something I prefer not to bring back.

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