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    Default Do these charges seem reasonable?

    I think so (Spyders are not cheap to have serviced) but was wondering about others opinions.

    2012 Can-Am Spyder RT-S SM5. Leaky gasket that needed replaced so had additional work done in the meantime (battery replacement, valve adjustment, etc.)


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    Not able to read your attachment. I would be surprised if your valves needed any adjustment as I haven't read of anyone that has - even high mileage Spyders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PW2013STL View Post
    Not able to read your attachment. I would be surprised if your valves needed any adjustment as I haven't read of anyone that has - even high mileage Spyders.
    No problem reading the attachment. Click on it. Twice.

    I have no experience with an RT with a V-twin, but based on what I have experienced on my wife't RT-S, it would not surprise me greatly to learn that adjusting the valves and replacing the gaskets would take a couple of hours. Not sure about two hours for each head, though.

    Regarding the need to adjust the valves: I would suspect that most of the work would be in the process to remove the valve cover(s). Once they are off, it would not take much more to check valve clearances. After all, you don't know if you need to adjust them unless you actually measure the clearances. Since he already needed to change the leaky gaskets, it certainly would make sense to take a few more minutes to check the clearances.

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    $82.50/hour labor cost at a dealership is pretty cheap. Dealerships in my area are around $120./hour


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    Labor rates in my area are also in the $80 range. When I go in for an oil change and service it usually costs around $300. It's not cheap but removing the tupperware takes time and parts are not cheap.I try to support my dealer because if you don't he might not be there when you really need him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knarfoh View Post
    I think so (Spyders are not cheap to have serviced) but was wondering about others opinions.

    2012 Can-Am Spyder RT-S SM5. Leaky gasket that needed replaced so had additional work done in the meantime (battery replacement, valve adjustment, etc.)


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    This go around I am thinking you got a pretty good deal. My dealer in AK, charged $130 per hour labor. RE: Valve jobs....I am one of the proponents of "they are not needed." The 998 twins service manual says valve jobs every 14K miles or so. I did two as a beta tester. Once on my 2008 at 14K miles and once on my 2010 at 28K miles. NO ADJUSTMENTS WERE NEEDED. Cost for both jobs was over $1000 each. A big waste of time and money. I further determined that I will check out valves at 50K or higher. Happily, I never reached that mileage on any more 998's. 2014 brought the 1330's and no valve work required.

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    You are correct - no adjustment necessary. The owner's manual calls for inspection and adjustment (if necessary) but no adjustment was necessary. This is the 2nd inspection I have had that did not require any adjustments. Since a lot of the skin is removed to replace the battery, I asked for the inspection. The best improvement? Change of spark plugs! Old plugs had 26,000+ miles on them. I can tell the difference with the new plugs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PW2013STL View Post
    Not able to read your attachment. I would be surprised if your valves needed any adjustment as I haven't read of anyone that has - even high mileage Spyders.
    Ended up just being an inspection. No valve adjustment was needed.

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    Let's see you got an $800-1000 valve check for $382 and change and a whole bunch of other work thrown in. Yeah I think you did ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasus1300 View Post
    Let's see you got an $800-1000 valve check for $382 and change and a whole bunch of other work thrown in. Yeah I think you did ok.
    Agreed. Rusty is a keeper.


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    Pretty fair questionable about replacing the plugs, probably was not needed. Hopefully was not added to fill a time gap. Some shops have those minimal time requirements & strictly follow BRP time estimate per task, no matter if already apart & have access to therefore saving time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bfromla View Post
    Pretty fair questionable about replacing the plugs, probably was not needed. Hopefully was not added to fill a time gap. Some shops have those minimal time requirements & strictly follow BRP time estimate per task, no matter if already apart & have access to therefore saving time.
    RE: Plugs...all the "experts" I have talked with (two Spyder mechanics) have said plugs should last for 60K miles. The question is...was I told that because it was true, or because they were to lazy to do that "nasty" replacement job????

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARtraveler View Post
    RE: Plugs...all the "experts" I have talked with (two Spyder mechanics) have said plugs should last for 60K miles. The question is...was I told that because it was true, or because they were to lazy to do that "nasty" replacement job????
    I can tell the difference with the change of plugs (cost per plug was under $4 and the mechanic already had the tupperware removed and was checking the valves). Mileage for my Spyder was a little over 26k. The engine sounds smoother and quieter to me. The real reason for my visit originally was to fix a leaky gasket.

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