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    Default Tilting Ryker????

    This could work.....

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    Now that body and brain are reprogrammed to a non tilting machine and liking it, I don't know it I want to go back to counter steering and leaning. But there may be many out there who might think it a good compromise.
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    I'd wonder about tire wear. The Ryker rubber is designed to stay flat on the road, and you're putting a lot more stress on the sidewalls. I know the tires on my Ural are NOT recommended for use on anything other than a sidecar rig ...
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    The answer to a question that was never asked seriously. Consider the Equa-Lean from many years back. Mostly they are proof of concept,
    but no one ever actually wanted one in enough numbers to make it a going concern.
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    It would be very difficult to out-corner a stock Ryker, much less one with 400mm front shocks/full length springs on tight round abouts / traffic circles.
    The stock set-up is great for a quick right, then quick left.
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    More speed possible than with my Moto Guzzi V7II or Yamaha XT250 or Honda CB1100.
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    This would seem to be an example of just because you can doesn't mean you should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sKiZo View Post
    I'd wonder about tire wear. The Ryker rubber is designed to stay flat on the road, and you're putting a lot more stress on the sidewalls. I know the tires on my Ural are NOT recommended for use on anything other than a sidecar rig ...
    Tyres pictured look like motorcycle Metzler Marathons to me.Big step up from stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobwebs View Post
    Tyres pictured look like motorcycle Metzler Marathons to me.Big step up from stock.
    I was just about to post the same observation ...... those tires are not AUTO ( or Ryker ) tires ..... and they are not a " step up " imho ..... there is a lot less tire contact " footprint " with those .... and I don't care if it NOW can LEAN during turning ..... I would bet serious money that a Ryker with Auto tire would run rings around that modified suspension Ryker ...... Mike

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    Looks like this is a one-man start-up operation. He is based in Chandler, AZ. which is about 10 miles from me. The roads ridden in the video are roads I have been on many times. So now y'all know what it's like riding here in Arizona..... Jim
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    It is about the same distance from me in Mesa. We ought to get together one of these days. I just got back from a ride up to Summerhaven (top of Mt Lemon). About 320 miles round trip

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    I was just about to post the same observation ...... those tires are not AUTO ( or Ryker ) tires ..... and they are not a " step up " imho ..... there is a lot less tire contact " footprint " with those .... and I don't care if it NOW can LEAN during turning ..... I would bet serious money that a Ryker with Auto tire would run rings around that modified suspension Ryker ...... Mike
    Ok I'll take that bet Mike but if I'm right you can keep your money, no one takes that currency seriously any more
    Not sure about the Metzlers but consider a dual compound motorcycle tyre like Avon Cobras with sticky edges doing their thing. Should take care of the bigfoot advantage.
    Anyone with a Ryker and a g force app a measurement would be great if you could post it.If so I'll contact Tilting Trikes for same.
    Gorilla in the room could be nanny not pulling the pin early due to wheel lift Mike (now I've got him nervous)
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    Doesn't it look like the wheels are all tilted but the body and seat are parallel to the ground?
    I don't think counter steering ever comes into play since that's a function of balancing on two wheels.
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    Counter steering only gets involved when you lift the inside wheel on a trike - Then you do a quick mental review of how a two wheeler works, and hopefully pass the test ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cobwebs View Post
    Ok I'll take that bet Mike but if I'm right you can keep your money, no one takes that currency seriously any more
    Not sure about the Metzlers but consider a dual compound motorcycle tyre like Avon Cobras with sticky edges doing their thing. Should take care of the bigfoot advantage.
    Anyone with a Ryker and a g force app a measurement would be great if you could post it.If so I'll contact Tilting Trikes for same.
    Gorilla in the room could be nanny not pulling the pin early due to wheel lift Mike (now I've got him nervous)
    If I'm full of crap I'll buy a Tri Glide and never go over 50 again. Deal?



    If you have an Android or I phone you can get an app for g-force monitoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHTundra View Post
    Doesn't it look like the wheels are all tilted but the body and seat are parallel to the ground?
    I don't think counter steering ever comes into play since that's a function of balancing on two wheels.
    I agree whole heartedly in that you do the job, you do the whole job properly and this is a compromise. There is a little counter steering only the amount you can shift the CoG while they are limiting by not rolling the body.

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