Having a problem getting registered in California.

[Supercrawler]

Purchased 2021 spyder rtl from IMotorsports on 12/20.
California DMV will not & cannot registred due to the Emission level. Precisely said,"Certifed For Sale In All States EXCEPT CALIFORNIA"
(Imotorspors should realized about this since thier sold many of spyder to california, right?)

Anyone have with a similar situation or solutions?

[WilcoJunoHotel]

Weird that they would be selling something that could not be legally registered.

Did you sign any sort of disclosure where they advised you of this?

Seems to me like the dealer should make it so that it passes emissions or they take the bike back and and return your money.

[Supercrawler]

Weird that they would be selling something that could not be legally registered.

Did you sign any sort of disclosure where they advised you of this?

Seems to me like the dealer should make it so that it passes emissions or they take the bike back and and return your money.

Signed docummant was sales contract thats only signed i cant think of.

[Supercrawler]

Can Am Spyder Emission Level.jpg Emission Label.

[WilcoJunoHotel]

Can Am Spyder Emission Level.jpg Emission Label.

Can't read your sticker but my 2020 says "This vehicle conforms to US EPA and California regulations applicable to 2020 model year new motorcycles and is certified to an HC+NOx emission standard of 0.8 gram/kilometer."

If yours says the same thing it sounds like the Motor Vehicle Department has bad information or the clerk looked it up wrong.

Here in GA, motorcycles (and I guess ours qualify as motorcycles) are exempt from emissions testing and we can also drive them in the HOV lanes.

[WilcoJunoHotel]

Check this out:

https://www.bts.gov/content/federal-...orcyclesa-gkmb

[IGETAROUND]

Spyders are CARB board certified, have been since 2008 when they were first sold. I believe that you can find attestation to this on BRP's web pages; I know that I have seen it there somewhere. Hope this helps.

Al in Kazoo

From CanAm website:
DO CAN-AM ON-ROAD MODELS MEET EPA / CARB / EU / ETC. REGULATIONS?
Yes. Can-Am On-Road models meet or exceed all environmental regulations, including the stricter CARB standards.

https://can-am.brp.com/on-road/us/en...questions.html

[BajaRon]

Can Am Spyder Emission Level.jpg Emission Label.

Too bad we can't read the label. I lived in San Diego for 53 years. I found the DMV to be catastrophically wrong more than once. Without being able to see your EPA cert. It's hard to say in this case.

[Peter Aawen]

Can you talk to anyone else at the DMV?? After all, I really doubt that YOUR Spyder is the ONLY Spyder registered in California, and I doubt very much that all of the others had this same problem or I reckon it would've been raised somewhere on the Forum already! (And it hasn't been! )

So it seems pretty likely that it's just ONE 'less than truly skilled/knowledgeable' DMV Employee being a bit of a pedantic prick and exercising their (probably quite limited) degree of power to stuff up your day/mess with you in regards to getting your Spyder registered.... But maybe going around or over them & pointing out that there are already a number of Spyders registered in California might help?! Or maybe not?? Worth a shot tho, isn't it??

[Supercrawler]

Sorry,, for the crappy Pic.
Here.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Purchased 2021 spyder rtl from IMotorsports on12/20.
California DMV will not, can not registred Due to the Emission level Precisely said.
"Certifed For Sale In All States EXCEPT CALIFORNIA"
(Imotorspors should realized about this since thier sold many of spyder to california should't they)
Anyone had same situation and how to solved.

I have questioned this Edict from Calif. a number of times on this Forum ..... others have reported the same issue here ..... After some investigation I learned Calif. WON'T register NEW vehicles BOUGHT from States other than Calif. ... They will register USED Mtc's with more than 7000 miles ...... good luck .... Mike

[gkamer]

Purchased 2021 spyder rtl from IMotorsports on 12/20.
California DMV will not & cannot registred due to the Emission level. Precisely said,"Certifed For Sale In All States EXCEPT CALIFORNIA"
(Imotorspors should realized about this since thier sold many of spyder to california, right?)

Anyone have with a similar situation or solutions?

This might be useful:

https://www.californiacartags.com/re...e%20of%20title.

[Supercrawler]

Can't upload the pic??

[Supercrawler]

Thanks All.

[ARtraveler]

All the information that I have seen has stated that the Spyders DO CONFORM to California Emission Specs.

You must have contacted the idiot of the pack at CA DMV.

Don't blame iMoto for this one....they know what they are doing IMO.

The Manufacturers Certificate of Origin states "THIS VEHICLE IS INTENDED FOR REGISTRATION IN THE U.S.A. ONLY." It does not say "Except California."

Further research should be done and I am thinking you will be fine.

[Supercrawler]

All the information that I have seen has stated that the Spyders DO CONFORM to California Emission Specs.

You must have contacted the idiot of the pack at CA DMV.

Don't blame iMoto for this one....they know what they are doing IMO.
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The Manufacturers Certificate of Origin states "THIS VEHICLE IS INTENDED FOR REGISTRATION IN THE U.S.A. ONLY." It does not say "Except California."

Further research should be done and I am thinking you will be fine.

Than what do this mean by"CERTIFIED FOR SALE IN ALL U.S STATES EXCEPT CALIFORNIA" said in emission label this is what i'm having problem with DMV.

[Supercrawler]

Can't read your sticker but my 2020 says "This vehicle conforms to US EPA and California regulations applicable to 2020 model year new motorcycles and is certified to an HC+NOx emission standard of 0.8 gram/kilometer."

If yours says the same thing it sounds like the Motor Vehicle Department has bad information or the clerk looked it up wrong.

Here in GA, motorcycles (and I guess ours qualify as motorcycles) are exempt from emissions testing and we can also drive them in the HOV lanes.

My Spyder Emission Label says "THIS VEHICLE CONFORMS TO U.S EPA REGULATIONS" only. No words of California regulations.(wish can upload pics).
Here in cali too motorcycle are exampt from emissions testing

[ARtraveler]

Than what do this mean by"CERTIFIED FOR SALE IN ALL U.S STATES EXCEPT CALIFORNIA" said in emission label this is what i'm having problem with DMV.

That is Not what I posted.


And......your post in #17 you say something entirely different????????

I hope that you can get this (what looks like) a CA DMV error figured out and fixed.

[Steve W.]

After some investigation I learned Calif. WON'T register NEW vehicles BOUGHT from States other than Calif. They will register USED Mtc's with more than 7000 miles ... good luck .... Mike

I looked through one of the links that was posted after this. It said that California residents could not bring in a vehicle with less than 7500 miles if it is a "49-state" model. I would think that, since the Spyder does not have a "California model", and the emissions label says something about being "CARB-compliant" (that's California Air Resources Board, for those that don't know), there should be no problem registering it.

I am increasingly happy that I moved away from there almost 40 years ago.

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[Motorcycledave]

Purchased 2021 spyder rtl from IMotorsports on 12/20.
California DMV will not & cannot registred due to the Emission level. Precisely said,"Certifed For Sale In All States EXCEPT CALIFORNIA"
(Imotorspors should realized about this since thier sold many of spyder to california, right?)

Anyone have with a similar situation or solutions?

This is a common problen here in California....
Folks will go out of state to get a great deal only to find that it's not so great.
ALL VEHICLES that come into the state must pass the California SMOG emissions test.
the tag should say 50 state legal, California approved, if it is not you can not register it here at all.
We have had several guys move into the state over the years and say hell I am not paying that for a bike
I will go to Utah, Arizona or where ever and buy a bike bring it here and get the bad news at DMV.
They can't sell it here because it is not legal so back to where they got it and take a bath on it.
The cost to make an out of state bike, car, truck legal here is way more than they saved, it can run into the thousands.
you can however buy a new one out of state and put a bunch of miles on it and then bring it in as a used one.
I don't remember what the mileage is (Call DMV ) to find out.
AS a side note....The Ryker models were NOT legal here until a few months ago because they
did not pass smog. BRP had to work them over to be able to have their dealers sell them....

[Motorcycledave]

Check this out:

https://www.bts.gov/content/federal-...orcyclesa-gkmb

Did you notice California is NOT mentioned anywhere in that... it's because California has their own rules that are much much more restrictive than the feds.

[pegasus1300]

Did you call Imotorsports and take it up with them? What did they say?

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Can't upload the pic??

Try taking a close up pic of only the pertinent part of the label. Use a photo program to reduce the jpeg quality level. That'll help.

[2dogs]

Shoot Squared Away a PM and see what they have to say.

[Supercrawler]

IMotorsport closed on Monday.
Call tomorrow see what they have to say.