2022 all new ghost model

[FIRECAT]

I have Intel that I learned last summer that BRP is releasing a brand new spider model for next year!! there is a plastics company down here in Windsor Ontario that builds lots of plastic for Spyders and it’s an all new program called “ghost”!!! this could also be a 2023 model and it very well could be the camber tilting model we’ve all been waiting for!

[Little Blue]

WOW, only time will tell. Something to think about for sure. Anyhow bring it on. .....

[MONK]

...camber tilting model we’ve all been waiting for!

Speak for yourself, sir. I DO. NOT. WANT. a tilting Spyder. If I did, I'd go back to 2 wheels.

JMO. YMMV. E Pluribus Unum. RUSH rocks.

[Possible]

With the wheelbase of the Spyder, I don't really see any advantage to a tilting Spyder. Unless you're racing, and
then it might aid corner speeds. The complication compared to a regular Spyder could put the cost way over the
already ridiculous prices for Spyders.

I test rode an Piaggio MP3 and it was interesting, but a much slimmer profile than a Spyder.

[ButterSmooth]

Shaft drive would be much more interesting than tilting. Single tube driveshaft/swingarm with a wheel that mounts like the fronts would eliminate the biggest maintenance headaches. They already know how to do it. And leaning would require compromises in tire design.

[Ex-Rocket]

[FIRECAT]

Well my Intel is correct I’m expecting a call from BRP for leaking this out they have been working on Patons for tilting Spyder since 2009 the patent number is right in the BRP engineering building on the wall when I went there in 2017 for the 10 year anniversary!! it’s going to be able to corner at twice the speed‘s we do now and it’s gonna look so futuristic instead of a garden tractor that I drive right now! I’ve had friends tell me my F3 looks like a garden tractor and it does not look as sleek as it should be for The 2020s!

[Gwolf]

Your friends will tell you the same thing about a tilting Spyder.

Did you buy it for yourself, or to please your friends?

[ARtraveler]

Thank you for giving us a heads up. Time will tell how this all goes.

We are good for now. A new 19 and a new 20. Now at 75, these should take us well into our retirement.

I don't see myself jumping on the "latest and greatest" if it happens. I will let others be the beta testers this go around.

My "new" attitude is that I like the "tried and true" rather than the "latest and greatest."

We traded our 2012 for the new 19 and the 2014 for the new 20. No more new Spyder every year or two.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Well my Intel is correct I’m expecting a call from BRP for leaking this out they have been working on Patons for tilting Spyder since 2009 the patent number is right in the BRP engineering building on the wall when I went there in 2017 for the 10 year anniversary!! it’s going to be able to corner at twice the speed‘s we do now and it’s gonna look so futuristic instead of a garden tractor that I drive right now! I’ve had friends tell me my F3 looks like a garden tractor and it does not look as sleek as it should be for The 2020s!

" TWICE THE SPEEDS " .... I don't believe a " tilting " spyder will be able to generate the " G " forces our current models do .... if the front wheels " tilt " they will ONLY work with REAL motorcycle tires .... and they will have far less traction than any Auto tires that are now running with complete Tread contact with the road surface. I don't believe BRP will be able to have Just the spyder body LEAN ..... No I don't have any engineering degree's, just a general understanding of how things work ..... good luck BRP ..... I'm not holding my breath on this ...... Mike

[ARtraveler]

My non-tilting F3 will take me through any twisty at speeds I am not even comfortable with. I have had nanny tweek me twice since being here. I could not imagine even wanting to go twice that. That's just me though.

I want to live to ride again tomorrow.

[Grandpot]

" TWICE THE SPEEDS " .... I don't believe a " tilting " spyder will be able to generate the " G " forces our current models do .... if the front wheels " tilt " they will ONLY work with REAL motorcycle tires .... and they will have far less traction than any Auto tires that are now running with complete Tread contact with the road surface. I don't believe BRP will be able to have Just the spyder body LEAN ..... No I don't have any engineering degree's, just a general understanding of how things work ..... good luck BRP ..... I'm not holding my breath on this ...... Mike

Mike is really on target with his assessment. One thing to add, the cost of real motorcycle tires and their short life span. $$$$

[AVBIZ]

Count me in for tilt and shaft drive.

[FIRECAT]

Count me in for tilt and shaft drive.

I just bought a new 2019 myself barely have 20,000 KM on it in 2 Seasons Numbers Way down because of the pandemic and yes I won’t be the first one to buy the ghost but I would consider it the year after depending how it looks and how it rides! overall very happy with my F3 limited lots of storage and corners much better than the 2012RSS I HAD! very impressed it’s not pretty but very functional very comfortable and very fun to ride!I guess that’s all that really matters! can one of you show me how to put photos on here!3607ECC7-8FAB-44A1-9037-EA7A85348BE3.jpg

[FIRECAT]

Never mind figured it out as you can tell from my handle I am also a avid snowmobiler that is why I have lime green graphics all over my black spider is an arctic cat snowmobile thing

[Joel The Biker]

Brp ghost project has nothing to do with spyders.

[ARtraveler]

[Cobwebs]

https://www.motorcycle.com/news/brp-...der-90418.html

Selectable lean assistance. Wonder if they mean you can set it up vertical at any speed if you want to. Should keep the purists happy, but then again I don't see it as that type of machine.More of a next step in the evolution of things than an allrounder.
Would be cool to whip around a Yamaha Niken through the twisties though

[ButterSmooth]

https://www.motorcycle.com/news/brp-...der-90418.html

Selectable lean assistance. Wonder if they mean you can set it up vertical at any speed if you want to. Should keep the purists happy, but then again I don't see it as that type of machine.More of a next step in the evolution of things than an allrounder.
Would be cool to whip around a Yamaha Niken through the twisties though

Two wheel dynamics are wonderful. That's just scary.

[Possible]

Key phrase: "The patent is still awaiting approval and there’s no telling whether it will ever be implemented on a Can-Am Spyder or other vehicle."

[Peter Aawen]

https://www.motorcycle.com/news/brp-...der-90418.html

Selectable lean assistance. Wonder if they mean you can set it up vertical at any speed if you want to. Should keep the purists happy, but then again I don't see it as that type of machine.More of a next step in the evolution of things than an allrounder.
Would be cool to whip around a Yamaha Niken through the twisties though

Would be, wouldn't it? Oh, sorry, already do that in the twisties on my current RT! Shame about how they blow me inta the weeds on the longer straights & open road tho!!

Still, interesting concept? Sure.... but wasn't that particular article originally published back in early 2011?? Has anyone seen much on it since? Any progress reports or updates; or even heard if the patent was actually granted?? So it seems that now, some 10 years later, BRP apparently hasn't progressed too far with it yet, so I wouldn't be holding your breath waiting for a production version!

And while we're talking about holding your breath forever - that article also mentions the prototype Hybrid Spyder that's 'currently on tour' & has (supposedly) been under development for even longer now, so that's obviously coming soon too.... Yeah, right!! We've seen how far that's actually got in the last 12+ years or so, despite BRP's annual 'drag it out & dust it off yet again' marketing & advertising efforts to fool the gullible masses into thinking that the company is actually doing something along those lines!!

No apparent progress in more than a decade or so?? It sounds more & more like they've taken a page or six outta the Elio play-book with both of these 'hybrid' and 'leaning trike' versions coming soon stuff!! I'll believe it when I see it - and I'm NOT gonna be holding my breath, either!

[Steve W.]

Had to double-check the calendar.

It's nowhere near "March 32".

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[Peter Aawen]

Had to double-check the calendar.

It's nowhere near "March 32".

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What, you didn't read the by-line under the heading of the article Cobwebs linked/that I quoted?? Here, I've copied it for you:

By Motorcycle.Com Staff Feb. 11, 2011

(my bold/underline emphasis)

The 'tilting patent application' story might be a fairly recent re-release of an old article, but that doesn't mean it's 'recent news'!

As for the Hybrid thing, just do some searching here, it's been reported as being 'a prototype' pretty much since there first was an RS Spyder - ie, more than a decade now.... Besides, just look carefully at the picture they provide of the green & white Spyder with 'Hybrid Technology' printed on it, and then try convincing anyone that it isn't a pic of a Spyder type that hasn't been made for some time now. Aaaaand then sesrch for & read the old threads about it - every time interest seems to flag a bit, they pull the same old chestnut outta the fire & give it another airing.

It seems BRP believes that either we're all extremely gullible, or we've got the 'long term recall' of a goldfish!

[Valkrocket]

As my ole Pappy used to say "Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see!"

[Cobwebs]

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Honda Neowing might be close, forcing BRP's hand