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    cueman....what measurement is 2-1/2 bars. My bike has stock, adjustable shocks and I'm about to dial them up a bit. You input would be appreciated.
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    Hi RICZ, mine is a Ryker Rally that has different suspension than the others, but if I had to guess I’d say about half an inch stiffer. Please remember that it corners better but rides stiffer, not as smooth in general. Maybe set yours a bit firmer and dial it in a little at a time. Good Luck, cueman

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    Quote Originally Posted by cueman View Post
    Maybe set yours a bit firmer and dial it in a little at a time. Good Luck, cueman
    Good advice. I did some serious twisty riding today, and paying attention to ride and lean, I don't think I can stand too much shock tightening. I mainly want to raise the front end. It thinks it's a snow plow, it's that close to the road. And I'm no heavy weight at 150 pounds + 10 pounds or so for gear.
    Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
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    There is a company called Elka Suspension that some people have switched to and I believe they set them up for your specific needs. May be worth a call to the experts. cueman

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    The price of admission is too high for this cheap bastard. If I can get what I want by winding up the stock shocks, I'm hunderd$ ahead.
    Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
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    Well driving up on friend ramps worked great! Couple minutes to slide the old one out and the Baja Ron's in, then back on my blocks to hook it up and reinstall the panels. Time for a test ride.
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    (Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.

    Things that move between machines: Ikea sheep skins, Zumo XT GPS, and extra tools. Hooker is going to be my summer trike up North; and Hookie my winter trike down South.

    (Asphalt/Hookie) Elka shocks on front - BajaRon sway bar, OEM driver's backrest, LED headlights, dual USB with voltmeter, dash cam, foam grips - Magic Mirrors - front tires Vredestein Quatrac SL on PPA ORB Chrome wheels.


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    Good job! When you take that test ride, you won't believe you are on the same bike.
    Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
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    All I can say is wow! By the way, I did not remove the belly plastic pans. I was able to remove the two bolts that go through the blocks that go around the sway bar. I used a 10mm wobble end ratchet end wrench, and it was able to reach the frame to get on the bolt to remove it. I reinstalled the bolt the other way around with the nut forward, which was easier going back together. So other than a few scratches on my arms and hands I though it went will. I have turned wrenches on cars and boats for most of my life.
    2018 RT Ltd - Asphalt Metallic - East Valley of Phoenix
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    (Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.

    Things that move between machines: Ikea sheep skins, Zumo XT GPS, and extra tools. Hooker is going to be my summer trike up North; and Hookie my winter trike down South.

    (Asphalt/Hookie) Elka shocks on front - BajaRon sway bar, OEM driver's backrest, LED headlights, dual USB with voltmeter, dash cam, foam grips - Magic Mirrors - front tires Vredestein Quatrac SL on PPA ORB Chrome wheels.


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    So we are looking at rain off and on for the next week or so. Glad I got a bit of a test ride in today. When weather improves I will try air different air pressure in the front tires, as I felt a bit of oversteer on the loop I did in upper Gold Canyon this morning. Or I just have to get use to the go cart corning handling provide by the Formosa tires and Baja Ron's sway bar. It is a very different trike now and in my opinion should have come OEM with this better handling. At any rate I think I am going to LIKE it!
    2018 RT Ltd - Asphalt Metallic - East Valley of Phoenix
    2018 RT Ltd Chrome - Champagne Metallic - Lake Stevens, Wa

    (Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.

    Things that move between machines: Ikea sheep skins, Zumo XT GPS, and extra tools. Hooker is going to be my summer trike up North; and Hookie my winter trike down South.

    (Asphalt/Hookie) Elka shocks on front - BajaRon sway bar, OEM driver's backrest, LED headlights, dual USB with voltmeter, dash cam, foam grips - Magic Mirrors - front tires Vredestein Quatrac SL on PPA ORB Chrome wheels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoking1127 View Post
    Well driving up on friend ramps worked great!
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    That's a very ingenious way to get your Spyder's front end off the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WilcoJunoHotel View Post
    PXL_20210119_165812874.jpg

    That's a very ingenious way to get your Spyder's front end off the ground.
    Yep a minute or two to drive up, set the parking brake, get off and see I need to go a little further up the ramps, get back on and hold the foot brake, release the parking brake, and ease up a little more and slide out the old and new one in, get back on and let it roll back down the ramps. Friend was not here much more than 10 minutes, which included placing the ramps and storing them again. Worked great!!!!!
    2018 RT Ltd - Asphalt Metallic - East Valley of Phoenix
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    (Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.

    Things that move between machines: Ikea sheep skins, Zumo XT GPS, and extra tools. Hooker is going to be my summer trike up North; and Hookie my winter trike down South.

    (Asphalt/Hookie) Elka shocks on front - BajaRon sway bar, OEM driver's backrest, LED headlights, dual USB with voltmeter, dash cam, foam grips - Magic Mirrors - front tires Vredestein Quatrac SL on PPA ORB Chrome wheels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoking1127 View Post
    Well driving up on friend ramps worked great! Couple minutes to slide the old one out and the Baja Ron's in, then back on my blocks to hook it up and reinstall the panels. Time for a test ride.
    That's basically how blacklightning and I swapped the sway bar on my RT. He drove a bike trailer up on ramps then put loading ramps on the back of the bike trailer. Ran my bike up on those ramps, tied it down (just to be safe) then swapped out the bar. Did it all on the ramps. Worked like a charm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoking1127 View Post
    I felt a bit of oversteer on the loop I did in upper Gold Canyon this morning. Or I just have to get use to the go cart corning handling provide by the Formosa tires and Baja Ron's sway bar. It is a very different trike now and in my opinion should have come OEM with this better handling. At any rate I think I am going to LIKE it!
    No doubt, you are gonna like it! And yes, get used to the go cart handling. I have the Federals up front, the original Kenda in the back and Ron's sway bar. I ride quite aggressively and have yet to feel any squirrel-y-ness.
    Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICZ View Post
    No doubt, you are gonna like it! And yes, get used to the go cart handling. I have the Federals up front, the original Kenda in the back and Ron's sway bar. I ride quite aggressively and have yet to feel any squirrel-y-ness.
    What inflation are you running front and back? I have same tires front and back.
    2018 RT Ltd - Asphalt Metallic - East Valley of Phoenix
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    (Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.

    Things that move between machines: Ikea sheep skins, Zumo XT GPS, and extra tools. Hooker is going to be my summer trike up North; and Hookie my winter trike down South.

    (Asphalt/Hookie) Elka shocks on front - BajaRon sway bar, OEM driver's backrest, LED headlights, dual USB with voltmeter, dash cam, foam grips - Magic Mirrors - front tires Vredestein Quatrac SL on PPA ORB Chrome wheels.


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    I have to get a friend with ramps
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    Quote Originally Posted by K80Shooter View Post
    I have to get a friend with ramps
    Climbing the ramps was not an issue!!!
    2018 RT Ltd - Asphalt Metallic - East Valley of Phoenix
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    (Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.

    Things that move between machines: Ikea sheep skins, Zumo XT GPS, and extra tools. Hooker is going to be my summer trike up North; and Hookie my winter trike down South.

    (Asphalt/Hookie) Elka shocks on front - BajaRon sway bar, OEM driver's backrest, LED headlights, dual USB with voltmeter, dash cam, foam grips - Magic Mirrors - front tires Vredestein Quatrac SL on PPA ORB Chrome wheels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoking1127 View Post
    What inflation are you running front and back? I have same tires front and back.
    I have 24# in the rear and 16# presently in the fronts. I did have the fronts at 18#, but thought I'd try 16#. I must have a numb butt, coz I don't sense any difference in handling, as many do with a 2#change.
    Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICZ View Post
    I am way past being a senior - I am now an artifact.
    Humorous. I haven't quite reached that stage but I'm inexorably approaching it. We have a friend who turned 100 several years ago and when asked what it meant he said, "I've stopped being a person and have become an attraction." I'll not likely have to worry about that.
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    OK award time for best Spyder aftermarket product award. I just did a run over Usery Pass and back with it's sweeping curves some tighter than others. I went over to the Salt River to try those tighter corners and raise and falls of the road. All I can say the Spyder should have been built both better tires like the Federals and a sway bar like Baja Ron's.

    So the award goes to Baja Ron's sway bar:
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    (Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.

    Things that move between machines: Ikea sheep skins, Zumo XT GPS, and extra tools. Hooker is going to be my summer trike up North; and Hookie my winter trike down South.

    (Asphalt/Hookie) Elka shocks on front - BajaRon sway bar, OEM driver's backrest, LED headlights, dual USB with voltmeter, dash cam, foam grips - Magic Mirrors - front tires Vredestein Quatrac SL on PPA ORB Chrome wheels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoking1127 View Post
    Climbing the ramps was not an issue!!!
    I never thought it was. I was stating that I wish I had a friend with ramps. Glad it worked out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K80Shooter View Post
    I never thought it was. I was stating that I wish I had a friend with ramps. Glad it worked out.
    That was meant to just be general statement for everyone!
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    (Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.

    Things that move between machines: Ikea sheep skins, Zumo XT GPS, and extra tools. Hooker is going to be my summer trike up North; and Hookie my winter trike down South.

    (Asphalt/Hookie) Elka shocks on front - BajaRon sway bar, OEM driver's backrest, LED headlights, dual USB with voltmeter, dash cam, foam grips - Magic Mirrors - front tires Vredestein Quatrac SL on PPA ORB Chrome wheels.


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    i have 2 bars to do on f3 's
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    I little test ride yesterday with the new sway bar. Youtube tagged on the last 21 seconds, sorry.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_hTE-nh4FI
    2018 RT Ltd - Asphalt Metallic - East Valley of Phoenix
    2018 RT Ltd Chrome - Champagne Metallic - Lake Stevens, Wa

    (Champagne/Hooker) Magic Mirrors, 360 LED head lights, BajaRon sway bar, H&R springs and shock adjusters, dash cam, foam grips, third brake light 4 LED strobe for 7 seconds and then on steady, rear LED turn signals/8 ohm 50W resistors, sequential turn signals on front fenders, Vredestein and PPA Orb wheels on front and General out back, and driver backrest.

    Things that move between machines: Ikea sheep skins, Zumo XT GPS, and extra tools. Hooker is going to be my summer trike up North; and Hookie my winter trike down South.

    (Asphalt/Hookie) Elka shocks on front - BajaRon sway bar, OEM driver's backrest, LED headlights, dual USB with voltmeter, dash cam, foam grips - Magic Mirrors - front tires Vredestein Quatrac SL on PPA ORB Chrome wheels.


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