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    Default Tune or no tune

    Anyone have any 1st hands experience using a Dynojet PV3 tuner compared to a throttle position module from Slingmod??

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    As far i can tell, throttle position module, just opens the gasvalve quicker, not gaining extra torque/ horsepower, but a tune via ECU, unleashes the horses in your motor.
    I have no 1st hand experience with the throttleposition thingy, but I flashed my ecu by a Dutch Race specialist, who made a tune right on te ecu, and that makes a huge (read HUGE) difference.
    Factory wise, the engine is not showing it's full potential..

    Only my two cents, The tune, and a straightpipe with an akropovic endpipe, no cat, are my two motor mods, and man this thing goes, use only premium fuel tho, as it's readily available here, in the netherlands
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    I have both. The PV3, with a custom made map, really woke up the machine. Also got a bit better mpg's to boot. The PC made the throttle input much more responsive. Best of both worlds. Picking one, I'd still go with the tune over the PC, as it increases overall performance.


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    Hello Troop, just curious, throttle control isn't that making the machine a bit nervous... I mean less throttlemovement by right hand, don't know the right words..
    I just worrie, that taking off, with a pv, makes the spyder less uncontrollable

    HAHAHA, i see, you drive the same spyder as myself, also 2019 F3S....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piratezz View Post
    Hello Troop, just curious, throttle control isn't that making the machine a bit nervous... I mean less throttlemovement by right hand, don't know the right words..
    I just worrie, that taking off, with a pv, makes the spyder less uncontrollable
    I use city mode the majority of time, with sport mode on occasion. Personally, I do find sport + too twitchy with the tune, for my tastes. Come spring, I might try loading the stock tune, and see how it feels in sport +


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    Comfort: Madstad 14" dark gray - 20" light gray windshields/Seth Laam seat/Homemade floorboards-highway pegs/+4 and +5 linkage/Attitude bars/Heated grips/Big Bike rider backrest

    Ride and Handling: Spyder Extras sway bar/Vredestein Q5 front tires/Cooper CS5 Ultra rear tire/Two Up shock/Laser aligned/15" Widow PPA wheels

    Performance: DynoJet PV3 (custom mapped by Fuel Moto)/K&N air filter/Baldwin cat delete pipe/Lamonster belt roller/Pedal Commander/EBC HH brake pads

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    Thanks for fast reply troop, but is city mode, not just as usual, cause I find throttle range not an issue on a f3. I Am just wondering as I saw the video, of "the vlogger", and he was really enthousiastic bout the pc
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    Thanks for all the input. I was leaning more to the PV3 tuner , just wanted more info.

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    Re: PC City mode. There is a definite increase in throttle response in City vs OEM. Sport and Sport + are next levels of responsiveness beyond City with 30+ steps to fine tune.

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    Yup .. Nothing "casual" about city mode with the Pedal Commander..


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    Comfort: Madstad 14" dark gray - 20" light gray windshields/Seth Laam seat/Homemade floorboards-highway pegs/+4 and +5 linkage/Attitude bars/Heated grips/Big Bike rider backrest

    Ride and Handling: Spyder Extras sway bar/Vredestein Q5 front tires/Cooper CS5 Ultra rear tire/Two Up shock/Laser aligned/15" Widow PPA wheels

    Performance: DynoJet PV3 (custom mapped by Fuel Moto)/K&N air filter/Baldwin cat delete pipe/Lamonster belt roller/Pedal Commander/EBC HH brake pads

    Convenience: Shad detachable luggage/Top Cuff w/handlebar mirrors/Garmin Zumo XT GPS/Lamonster Packrack-Kappa 56L top case

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    PC simply opens the electronic throttle further than you actually rotate it,but still only to fully open.We used to call these 1/4 turn throttles back in the old days.They make bike feel faster but ECM tune actually makes it go faster.I do feel that the Spyder throttle is a very slow opening part but I wouldnt pay a couple hundred bucks for something I can do by twisting my wrist further,JMO.
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    pv3 did not work for me It removed my stock map and left me dead in the water call dyno jet they said they can;t help me so they refund my money ,had to go to my spyder service store to reinstall the stock map cost $350.00. I would send it out to wick it to have it flashed they will stand behind there work
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    Had 1/4 turns on all my dirt bikes and ATV. Takes some getting used to because trouble happens fast. Trees brush and rocks are not forgiving by any means. Never had any 1/4 turns on my street machines. No ECU's in those days. Everything was direct-drive and easy and inexpensive to repair.

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