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    Do you think that he will drive his car into a wall to see if he can activate the air bags, set fire to his home to see if the smoke alarm works, stick his hand in a fire to see if it burns him, etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gkamer View Post
    I wonder if that would of happened if he had keep the wheels straight going through the leaves instead of cranking the handle bars back and forth? My guess is no it wouldn't.
    Not an issue.
    This would correspond to a M/C sliding in a turn (ice, oil, gravel, etc.) and suddenly having traction...typically resulting in a high-side (flipping over, instead of sliding).
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    Quote Originally Posted by LongIsland View Post
    Do you think that he will drive his car into a wall to see if he can activate the air bags, set fire to his home to see if the smoke alarm works, stick his hand in a fire to see if it burns him, etc.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongIsland View Post
    Do you think that he will drive his car into a wall to see if he can activate the air bags, set fire to his home to see if the smoke alarm works, stick his hand in a fire to see if it burns him, etc.?
    One can only hope.
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    Kind of like the Jackass movies except his ride is much more expensive than a stolen shopping cart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongIsland View Post
    Do you think that he will drive his car into a wall to see if he can activate the air bags, set fire to his home to see if the smoke alarm works, stick his hand in a fire to see if it burns him, etc.?
    Dont give him any ideas!

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    Vredestein's????????
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    Typical high side. Back wheel(s) loose traction, rear end swings out, rear tire(s) regain traction - flip. Can be deadly on two wheels at any speed.

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    Just like on Facebook - so many Karens and keyboard warriors here. Why all the name calling and attacks? Would you do this to your Spyder, no? Okay - cool. Guess what - he would. He did. He shared the video. You don't have to watch it.

    I say kudos to him. Looks like something I'm likely to do. All you keyboard warrior name calling folks just sit back and be ready - I'm sure there's something else you can flame and attack coming soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdr00ejr View Post
    Just like on Facebook - so many Karens and keyboard warriors here. Why all the name calling and attacks? Would you do this to your Spyder, no? Okay - cool. Guess what - he would. He did. He shared the video. You don't have to watch it.

    I say kudos to him. Looks like something I'm likely to do. All you keyboard warrior name calling folks just sit back and be ready - I'm sure there's something else you can flame and attack coming soon.
    I can see your point, but somehow stupidity makes me want to comment on it.
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    Counter opinions are fine IMO. Just keep it friendly people.

    As moderators, this thread has been on the verge of breaking rules, but has not gone so far over the line as to close it.

    So far, the mods have not had a big discussion over it, but maybe that time is coming.

    Mr Bliss did open himself up to criticism by posting the event on Facebook for all to see. The pack seems to think what he did was not real smart, but jdr00 has a valid point also.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ARtraveler View Post
    Mr Bliss did open himself up to criticism by posting the event on Facebook for all to see. The pack seems to think what he did was not real smart, but jdr00 has a valid point also.
    Methinks his point is that he got his undies in a knot. The comments made about Bliss and his antic are all valid and non threatening in any way. Bliss did a dumb thing and is getting ridiculed here for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RICZ View Post
    Methinks his point is that he got his undies in a knot. The comments made about Bliss and his antic are all valid and non threatening in any way. Bliss did a dumb thing and is getting ridiculed here for that.
    He's been called an idiot, stupid, moron, told he has zero IQ, someone above says they wish he'd drive his car into a wall, and I'm the one with my undies in a knot? LOL! BTW, wishing he'd drive his car into a wall definitely seems non-threatening and valid - NOT!

    I made my point - and I'll bow out of this conversation so the moderators don't have to shut it down on my account. If anyone needs me - I'll be out doing something that around here I'm sure will get me ridiculed next. ;-)
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    To my eye this looks like it was done on purpose.
    The person doing this is too experienced to have done this by mistake. (or just got really lucky)

    Watch the part of the video where he steps off the bike as it flips.
    That's not something you would normally do without some experience.

    This person likely was testing the limits of the Spyder and was trying to flip it. That takes a LOT of skill to do without hurting yourself.
    The throttle control is good until he lets off at the wrong point in the slide. If it was kept pinned the back would have continued to slide easily.

    My small bet would be on that Kevin is pretty experienced with hooligan-esc riding and was ready for this 100%.
    Certainly would not go as far as calling him stupid. Maybe not the decision I agree with but not stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdr00ejr View Post
    He's been called an idiot, stupid, moron, told he has zero IQ...
    IF the shoe fits.......


    I'll bow out now, too. My opinions aren't going to change no matter what others opinions are.

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    Everyone take a deep breath...

    "It ain't easy being green" and it sometimes takes a tough skin to go against the pack. Ask me how I know.

    I for one like to see both sides of a story. Don't take stuff here to personal. That's when things get fired up and need further attention.

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    There is a video of someone who flips a riker very easily by rolling backwards. He did it by accident. He stepped off of it to. Then he discusses how the accident happened and how to avoid it.

    I've done stupid things on my spyder. I won't be posting them. I don't know which side of this argument I come down on more. But it is freedom of choice and freedom of expression.
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    Yup! Watched it, made a comment or two, not going to try it myself. It's filed in my mind as avoid and don't do this. Life goes on.

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    New guy here, considering a Spyder after test ride this spring. Presently have a Can Am Defender and still enjoying the XMAX 300 but the Spyder looks very interesting for my next ride. A great forum here and in depth information.

    As far a Kevin's "experiment" I tend to agree with 0h400ex. What it shows me is the limits of the machine which is important to me. Just like testing your car or bike on a closed track the machine usually is capable of more than you will put it through but important to know what happens when you push it too far. In this case nice to have someone else do it so I can watch and learn. Should not the nanny have kept his machine on 3 wheels normally?

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    It is not the first time I've seen someone abuse a Spyder or Ryker with what looks like just the intention to destroy the vechicle. Check out the video below where a Ryker is thrashed.

    I must admit I get a little triggered by someone destroying things for the sake of... enjoying to destroy things and get attention? But at the same time, if someone wants to destroy their property, or risk their own health, that is their decission and their right

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    Quote Originally Posted by milryder View Post
    New guy here, considering a Spyder after test ride this spring. Presently have a Can Am Defender and still enjoying the XMAX 300 but the Spyder looks very interesting for my next ride. A great forum here and in depth information.

    As far a Kevin's "experiment" I tend to agree with 0h400ex. What it shows me is the limits of the machine which is important to me. Just like testing your car or bike on a closed track the machine usually is capable of more than you will put it through but important to know what happens when you push it too far. In this case nice to have someone else do it so I can watch and learn. Should not the nanny have kept his machine on 3 wheels normally?
    And we even have a name for them. It's "beta tester." They are at the forefront of the testers. New adapters of Spyders, I did three of the first year, first model ones. There are also some beta testers doing the new Kenda K9's.

    RE: Nanny: She is pretty good under "normal" conditions. I was saved from hydroplaning twice. Trying to force the limits, IMO is not "normal" operation.

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    Personally I think people are being a bit hard on Bliss. I see what he posted as a Public Service Announcement so others can see what could happen and to be careful.


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    first of all this Bliss dude is real stupid trying to flip a Spyder and secondly, more stupid to post the videos!! He is running on single digit IQ!! It is obviously he could not hurt his head cuz there certainly is nothlng in it??????
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