-
Member
RT Ltd Suspension fault - does it have a Schrader valve? Where? Ideas?
My 2022 RT Ltd has done less than 700 kms (< 450 miles) (bought it new 2 months ago). On the freeway on the last couple of days at 100 km/hr (60 mph) after about 10 km (6 m) I get the suspension fault icon flashing. No rough road or large bumps. I stopped, checked it over, all seemed OK restarted and the fault went away. The next day on the freeway, same thing happened. I couldn't detect any problem so kept going. After restarting the fault goes away.
There is nothing much in the Operator's Guide about this fault or the possible cause or what to do about it, except to take it to a dealer.
I've read through previous threads on this forum where owners have had this problem and seems that the fault could be caused by a number of issues, some simple and others complex.
Can anyone let me know if my model has a Schrader valve and where to find it and how to access as a start.
Any other suggestions are welcome. Thanks for your help.
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 09-20-2023 at 03:00 AM.
Reason: Expanded title to briefly ask the question/s... ;-)
-
Yes you have a Shrader valve, it's under the drivers seat and rather hard to get to. Raise the seat, peer back and under the right side of seat; back by where the hinge is; you will find a "disc" about the size of a half-dollar w/ the valve sticking out the top. It's difficult to get to, I have to use needle-nosed pliers.
If you want to check the air connections, you may have to remove the rear seat, detach the front seat gas shock, unbolt the hinge arms, and remove it. There is a plastic panel under the front seat with half a dozen, or so, plastic rivets; remove them, the C-clip holding the valve, the panel, and you will see some of the lines and connectors beneath.
The leveling arm is on the driver's side and you will have to look forward along the left swing arm to see it it's connected.
I watched a video of the new RTL's being uncrated and assembled years ago. The RTL's look a bit like the Ryker when they are uncrated; the rear tire & swing arm are exposed and the entire section with the side cases & top case has to be bolted onto it. I surmise that many of the problems involving the air ride (amongst a few other things) is caused by not connecting the leveling arm correctly during assemby & set-up.
I hope you find the problem.
2020 Spyder RT Limited; Deep Marsala/Chrome
Formosa AZ01 165/50/R16's on PPA Recluse wheels up front
General Altimax RT43 215/60/R15 on factory rear
Primary exhaust: RLS Cat delete w/ his baffle; secondary, custom built w/ Flowmaster HS2
Suspension: BajaRon swaybar (highly recommended!), M2 coil-overs, front & rear (also highly recomended!)
Extra LED lighting and misc. to suit my needs/wants
-
As spyderdave explained except that on my S2S I fitted a 6in flexible Schrader extension to the valve. I leave this permanently fitted, I double it back and tuck the end in beside the original valve. It's very handy for checking the pressure or topping up in case of pump failure or other problem.
Alan.
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 09-20-2023 at 08:33 AM.
Reason: Removed Post title - many only see Thread titles, and post titles mess with Searching! ;-)
-
Very Active Member
x3 On checking the dog bone on the swing arm, make sure it hooked up correctly. But most of all it is a NEW bike, and you have a warranty, use it. They may have some setting in the computer set wrong and it will have to be hooked to BUDS to reset it!
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 09-27-2023 at 12:33 AM.
Reason: DDS ...
-
Originally Posted by Flier Tuck
As spyderdave explained except that on my S2S I fitted a 6in flexible Schrader extension to the valve. I leave this permanently fitted, I double it back and tuck the end in beside the original valve. It's very handy for checking the pressure or topping up in case of pump failure or other problem.
Alan.
Awesome idea! It's on my "to do" list as of now.
2020 Spyder RT Limited; Deep Marsala/Chrome
Formosa AZ01 165/50/R16's on PPA Recluse wheels up front
General Altimax RT43 215/60/R15 on factory rear
Primary exhaust: RLS Cat delete w/ his baffle; secondary, custom built w/ Flowmaster HS2
Suspension: BajaRon swaybar (highly recommended!), M2 coil-overs, front & rear (also highly recomended!)
Extra LED lighting and misc. to suit my needs/wants
-
Member
Thanks all for the helpful suggestions. The Schrader valve extension is particularly clever. I have arranged to take the bike to the dealer next Wednesday and will update this thread with any findings.
-
Active Member
Seconded for the schrader valve extension. Did this on our 2023 S2S using a 6 inch hose type off Amazon....makes it super simple to check the air pressure.
But really BRP has a level sensor it reads, surely there is a pressure sensor to guard against some idiot adding way too much pressure ??? if so then it would be a minor update to the ECU and gauge cluster to display it on one of the menus ???
my .02 cents
2024 RT SEa To Sky ( back at dealer again due to blank screen issues , loss of BT and WIFI :-( :-( .. looking forward to the BajaRon event May 1-5 just with 2023 S2S only)
2023 RT Sea to Sky Shadow Green ( guess what NO errors at all in 9 months of owning....)
-
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by WRCLVR
Seconded for the schrader valve extension. Did this on our 2023 S2S using a 6 inch hose type off Amazon....makes it super simple to check the air pressure.
But really BRP has a level sensor it reads, surely there is a pressure sensor to guard against some idiot adding way too much pressure ??? if so then it would be a minor update to the ECU and gauge cluster to display it on one of the menus ???
my .02 cents
If you add air manually you can keep going till a fitting, hose or the bladder pops.
-
Member
An update on my problem. Just back from the dealer. The Tech said the problem was a loose bolt in the suspension actuator and that he's seen this previously.
The bolt is in under where the passenger footpeg is on the LHS.
All seemed OK on the way home from the dealer.
-
Very Active Member
Originally Posted by Stuart1234
An update on my problem. Just back from the dealer. The Tech said the problem was a loose bolt in the suspension actuator and that he's seen this previously.
The bolt is in under where the passenger footpeg is on the LHS.
All seemed OK on the way home from the dealer.
have to read between the lines. what he meant to say was bolt was never hooked up in prep setup. don't want to incriminate any shop employee's
2015 Spyder RT Ltd- bUrp - only add the "U", 2010 Honda NT700V-red,2010 Honda NT700V-silver retired @201,111 miles, 1997 Honda PC800, 1996 Honda PC800, Honda CT500, Honda Shadow 500, 1978 Suzuki GS550, 1973 Suzuki TC125, other assorted smaller bikes, Suzuki TM400
-
Ozzie Ozzie Ozzie
2013 RT Ltd Pearl White
Ryde More, Worry Less!
-
If you don't know how to view the fault codes on the bike's display you should learn. When you get a warning pull over, do not shut off the bike, pull up the fault codes on the display and take a picture of them with your phone to show the service tech. Someone recently posted how to pull up the fault codes using the joy stick but I can't find the thread. I think it was in one of the recent VSS fault threads. It's also in your owners manual.
Lee B
2022 Can Am RT Limited
2021 Honda NC750X DCT
-
Active Member
For me the fault was C102A if I remember correctly. The bike was a new 2021 RT LTD. The ride height actuator arm was not connected. The resulting continuously running pump then failed. And there was air leaks. The pressure release valve was faulty too.
After 5 months in the shop (well there was Covid supply chain issues over that winter) they eventually replaced everything. Before that every time it got 10 miles from the dealer it threw codes. It was always the same, unloading the suspension over freeway bridges would start things off. Surface streets fine, canyons fine, freeways 5 miles and the code would come back. It went away every time you turned off the bike. It didn't store it for future retrieval.
Poor tech just about tore his hair out every time I would bring it back. He'd fix the next bit, he'd road test the heck out of it, hand it back and then it would fail again. So they replaced everything basically as a kit and now it works fine.
So, I'd keep an eye on things, my pump was obviously stressed by continually running and probably overheating. You may be luckier than I was.
Can Am Syder RT Limited (2021)
Triumph Bonneville T120 (2018)
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts
-
Forum Rules
|