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Utter disappointment
I just purchased a 2019 F3-Limited.
So today I installed the Led's that I got from La Monster quality product.
Upon removal of the panels the what the heck's going on. I think every panel unnoticeable to the eye when all together had some kind of nick scrape to bare plastic all paint rubbed off.
Then it got real exciting when I tried to remove the second headlight on the left facing the bike. I had removed all the screws and the housing barely moved. The other side was no problem and came out relatively easy but this one wasn't coming out. I pulled again and it finally released but the adjust cable came off. Some genius in Canada had routed over cabling and zip tided it. Totally frustrated I put it back together and will do the cable another day. This is my third Spyder and the other two were nothing like this, very Sad. Oh It was also missing a rubber grommet for the access cover to get to the radiator. Getting ready for a trip hope it doesn't fall apart.
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Unbelievable
2020 RT Ride Frequent Stay Safe
Aftermarket Aux Light, GPS mounting/wiring, Lamonster Garage Mirror Lock, Lamonster Garage Belt Tensioner
Backrest Home Brew Mod
2008 RS from 2008 through 4/2015, 2015 F3-S from 4/2015 through 9/2020
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From the date of purchase, I enter into a log everything, especially things that aren't right. Dates and times are there as well as visits to the dealer and work done. More than once, this has helped in winning disputes. Looks like you should start yours with supporting photos.
Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
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Have the Spyder F3s been made in Canada? Or have BRP move the production line to far east Asia?
‘21 Honda Rebel 1100 DTC Burgundy
‘13 Spyder RT-L Pearl White
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How about Mexico?
The largest storage yard for Can AM new Spyder's is just east of El Paso TX. 1/2 square mile stacked 3 high. I know they are not made in El Paso. This is the Largest distribution center for Can Am I have ever seen.
Jack
All my life I wanted to be somebody, now I realize I should have been more specific.
2019 Specialized E-Bike COMO 2.0
2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee Overland
2018 Tiffin Phaeton 37BH Motorhome
2015 BMW R1200R LC
2014 RTL SE6 Pearl White
2012 RT-622 trailer viper red
2014 Look 7x12 motorcycle trailer silver and black
2011 Polaris Ranger green
2013 GMC Yukon Denali XL silver oak
2016 Can Am Maverick
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ABQ, you haven't said whether or not you purchased your 2019 brand new from a dealer or "previously owned". Had the body panels been previously removed to your knowledge? More than a few of us have had ours apart, yes, all body panels, headlights, etc. and have not experienced what you describe. Fit and finish on mine was excellent. Easily disassembled and just as easily reassembled. No unexpected cable-ties, etc. Comments from members such as "Unbelievable" and "Or have BRP move the production line to far east Asia?" are uncalled for. Issues such as you describe; "every panel unnoticeable to the eye when all together had some kind of nick scrape to bare plastic all paint rubbed off" just doesn't sound like something that would get past BRP quality control inspectors.
I will say, however, that in all likelihood, and although my 2019 F3Ltd is my first Spyder, it will probably be my last. I purchased the BEST extended warranty shortly after initial purchase and will under no circumstances keep it past the total warranty period of five years, maybe less depending on milage. Just too costly to maintain after that for someone who must rely on their dealer for major services. I really like my Spyder and have had excellent service from it - and I don't expect that to change. 10K miles now and absolutely no issues.
But - having an engineering background and having been on Gold Wings for many years, I can easily see that, in my eyes, BRP doesn't match up to the engineering standards of Honda for instance. I've literally traveled all over the country on Gold Wings and never worried about break-downs. Total 100% faith in the machine, and although I've never had any issues, I don't have that same faith in my current ride, and for what my Spyder F3Ltd cost, I expected more from an engineering / design standpoint (although the 2020's have gone a long way in addressing some issues). I went into Spyder ownership totally blind, never even talked to any owners, absolutely an unsuspecting newbie So, the answer for me is simple, keep the Spyder as long as it has a warranty on it and then go back to a two-wheeler with shaft drive that I know I can trust.
But again, I don't believe that issues like you are describing are common, rare even. If in fact your Spyder was brand new and came out of the factory like you describe, then shame on BRP, it's just hard to believe.
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Originally Posted by jaherbst
How about Mexico?
The largest storage yard for Can AM new Spyder's is just east of El Paso TX. 1/2 square mile stacked 3 high. I know they are not made in El Paso. This is the Largest distribution center for Can Am I have ever seen.
Jack
That's why mine wants to turn into a Mexican eatery all the time!!!!
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Originally Posted by jaherbst
How about Mexico?
The largest storage yard for Can AM new Spyder's is just east of El Paso TX. 1/2 square mile stacked 3 high. I know they are not made in El Paso. This is the Largest distribution center for Can Am I have ever seen.
Jack
Like to see a picture of that!
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Originally Posted by jaherbst
How about Mexico?
The largest storage yard for Can AM new Spyder's is just east of El Paso TX. 1/2 square mile stacked 3 high. I know they are not made in El Paso. This is the Largest distribution center for Can Am I have ever seen.
Jack
From here: https://www.brp.com/en/about-brp/our...acilities.html
OUR MEXICAN FACILITIES
Our Mexican footprint has grown over the years. We now have two plants in Juárez where we manufacture our Can-Am off-road vehicles. In Querétaro, we assemble our Sea-Doo watercraft and the Rotax engines for our Can-Am off-road vehicles. .
2001: Juárez 1
2013: Querétaro
2016: Juárez 2
2014 Copper RTS
Tri-Axis bars, CB, BajaRon sway bar & shock adjusters, SpyderPop's Bumpskid, NBV peg brackets, LED headlights and modulator, Wolo trumpet air horns, trailer hitch, custom trailer harness, high mount turn signals, Custom Dynamics brake light, LED turn signal lights on mirrors, LED strip light for a dash light, garage door opener, LED lights in frunk, trunk, and saddlebags, RAM mounts and cradles for tablet (for GPS) and phone (for music), and Smooth Spyder belt tensioner.
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Kaos----- Gone but not forgotten.
2014 RTS in Circuit Yellow, farkle-ing addiction down to once every few months. ECU FLASH IS GREAT.
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Brand New !
My 2015 F3-S was put together a heck of a lot better than this one!
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I wonder if some greasy handed, $9.00 per hour employee, with an imagination did the dealer prep on your machine before you took delivery.....?
2005 Windveil Blue Premium Mustang Convertible
2008 Honda GL1800/California Sidecar Trike, SOLD
2014 Platinum Silver Satin Spyder RTL, SOLD
Semper Fi
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Its does not matter what amount someone makes , its all about integrity and pride on what you do!
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+1 Best way to get a raise is to have integrity at work and attention to detail with some pride in what you do. Also this helps :
" If you're early-you're on time, if your on time-- you're late, if you're late-- your fired"
Kaos----- Gone but not forgotten.
2014 RTS in Circuit Yellow, farkle-ing addiction down to once every few months. ECU FLASH IS GREAT.
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Originally Posted by trikermutha
Its does not matter what amount someone makes , its all about integrity and pride on what you do!
Unfortunately, generally missing in the American workplace today ....
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Originally Posted by ABQSpyder
Brand New !
My 2015 F3-S was put together a heck of a lot better than this one!
I gave my 2015 F3-S to my brother last week. It was perfect from day one and still is running like new and workmanship was quality number one. Amazing for a first year model.
Nothing like some 2020 RT's with zipped tied and misaligned Tupperware rear-ends. My 2020 RT fortunately was not zipped tied but the fit and finish is not up to snuff compared to 2015 F3-S IMHO.
2020 RT Ride Frequent Stay Safe
Aftermarket Aux Light, GPS mounting/wiring, Lamonster Garage Mirror Lock, Lamonster Garage Belt Tensioner
Backrest Home Brew Mod
2008 RS from 2008 through 4/2015, 2015 F3-S from 4/2015 through 9/2020
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Patiently waiting for my 2020 tupperware fix, but I have BRP arm rests, and that seems to be a problm. I wonder how long these brilliant engineers will take to figure this out? Oh well guess I need to stop grumbling about that.
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Patiently waiting for my 2020 tupperware fix, but I have BRP arm rests, and that seems to be a problem. I wonder how long these brilliant engineers will take to figure this out? Oh well guess I need to stop grumbling about that.
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‘Work ethic’ and ‘Integrity’ have become every bit as uncommon as ‘Common Sense’. In my opinion the overriding ‘profit motive’ will do that to an economy.
The thought used to be ‘If you build a better mousetrap....’, but today it’s ‘If you build a cheaper mousetrap....’. Quality has been sacrificed on the altar of ‘cost accounting’.
MWO (Ret'd) SJ Barnes
‘20 RTL Stone Grey
named Britannia in honour of EE Doc Smith’s
Grey Lensman’s ship.
Farkles:
Bestem Carplay
canamsypderaccessories hitch and wiring harness,
showchrome trunk rack,
12v AND dual USB direct to battery in the frunk,
dual USB switched in the blank console switch spot (parasites the power off the seat heater switch),
frunk lid organizer,
trunk organizer,
showchrome rider backrest,
ryder and passenger cup holders,
ram mount for the iPad mini I use for GPS
quadlock phone mount
Nautilus horn
Data blocker on the glove box USB
Big Bike Parts highway pegs
Spyderzone dash pouch
Convex mirrors
‘20 Ryker 900 (my wife’s ryde)
Farkles
Slingmods fwd/rev ‘suicide shifter’
frunk organizer
dual horn
Max mount
Rear seat with tall back rest (not mounted)
Ryder backrest (not mounted)
Side bag
Top bag
top bag makes a good backrest. Will swap on the rear seat if she ever wants to 2up
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