uncomfortable in corners

[sandyhdds]

Hey to all. Dont quite understand the spyder in turns. I am very new to riding. It would seem to me that if you turn left the spyder would lean to the right and the left wheel would have tendency to rise up. But everything I read it is the opposite. Turn left too fast and sharp the right wheel can rise up. I am confused. Like I said I am a new rider and just getting my feet wet.Thanks

[CopperSpyder]

Great question, I see your finding your way around the forum . If you have not read the dos and don'ts try that https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...Spyder-owners/ It will take some practice on the Spyder but it should come to you quickly start slow and work from there. Lots of things / ways you can take corners. I'm sure you will get some good suggestions about leaning using your knees legs feet ect. But remember it just take a little time and practices.

[sandyhdds]

I did with your help thanks

[sandyhdds]

CopperSpyder, Thanks for helping me out. Dont know how to reply to individual posts . What is quick reply vs replyThanks

[Lew L]

CopperSpyder, Thanks for helping me out. Dont know how to reply to individual posts . What is quick reply vs replyThanks

I'll have to assume( I hate doing that) you mean the reply buttons at the bottom right of each "box"? "reply" just opens a new box to reply in. " Reply with quote" is more specific and shows the quote your replying to. Like this one.
Lew L

Opps----- upon proof reading my post----- there is no difference.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

I'll have to assume( I hate doing that) you mean the reply buttons at the bottom right of each "box"? "reply" just opens a new box to reply in. " Reply with quote" is more specific and shows the quote your replying to. Like this one.
Lew L

Opps----- upon proof reading my post----- there is no difference.

... On my computer there is a difference, I just tried " Reply " and got a blank box ..... tried " Reply With Quote " and got the post I was answering Above my answer..... like it's shown here now ..... annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd Lew, I hope to be Skiing in 2 mos.

[MONK]

In a curve, press your inside knee against the seat/tank and firmly plant your outside foot on the floorboard/peg. Lean into the curve and roll on the throttle. If you're coming from a 2 wheeler, give it about 1000 miles to get the hang of it and feel comfortable. That's about what it took me. Now, I dig as deep into the curves as I possibly can. You literally can't low side. The nanny will generally keep you from high siding. (Obviously, physics always wins. If you take a 30 mph curve at 90, expect bad things to happen. However, taking a curve 10-20 mph faster than you nomally would isn't unheard of and really gets the adrenaline flowing...in a good way.)

[canamjhb]

What MONK said. Plus, I would add 3 things. Look as far as you can through and beyond the curve. Do most of the steering by PULLING on your inside handlebar. And keep a relaxed grip on the handlebars. As said above, go slow and practice. Your technique will develop with a few miles and some practice. The Spyder is a very stable platform. Don't worry about wheels coming off the ground. Something that worked for me was to "lead with my nose". That is, point my nose through corners. Enjoy..... Jim

[Big F]

Hey Monk, talk about getting the adrenaline flowing???? we just returned from Lamonsters Spyders in the Ozarks and logged many hundreds of miles in groups.. I don't believe there is a straight stretch of road longer than 100 yards anywhere in the Ozarks - just continuous turns left and right. the lead Spyder in our group was a seasoned rider from KC and he loved to get on the throttle!! He would enter most all curves that were marked 35 MPH at 50 plus????? My back saddle mate was petrified most of the time and we did lag behind some of the time because it is quite different on the curves with 2 adults aboard versus one...
Had a great time though...
BIG F

[Spyder_Cowgirl]

Hey Monk, talk about getting the adrenaline flowing???? we just returned from Lamonsters Spyders in the Ozarks and logged many hundreds of miles in groups.. I don't believe there is a straight stretch of road longer than 100 yards anywhere in the Ozarks - just continuous turns left and right. the lead Spyder in our group was a seasoned rider from KC and he loved to get on the throttle!! He would enter most all curves that were marked 35 MPH at 50 plus????? My back saddle mate was petrified most of the time and we did lag behind some of the time because it is quite different on the curves with 2 adults aboard versus one...
Had a great time though...
BIG F

Were you in group 1 during the Flat Creek ride ... with Claude in the lead? If so, yes, he really does like to push it through the curves ... I managed to stick with him through most of it on the way back from Flat Creek (Claude on his F3 and me on my RT -- with sway bar and Elka shocks). I was not paying attention to speed, but am sure some of the 45 mph recommendations were tossed at 65 mph. Needless to say ... it was fun! I did back off after our leg stretch stop ... good thing; not only did I wear myself out, wore the RT out too -- check engine P0340 error, limp home. But was able to ride it all the way back to Lamont's and Harvey (Spyderpops) went above and beyond to fix (late on Saturday and he was already slammed).

Sorry for the minor thread hijack ... one thing I will say that is germain to the topic. Since I am riding with tears in both shoulders (not bad enough for surgery), I find that PUSHING gently with the outside hand is easier / smoother than pulling with the inside (and it doesn't wear my shoulders out either). So, for a left hand curve:
-- tuck your left knee against the tank
-- press with the outside (in this case right) foot
-- push, gently, against the right hand grip
-- lean slightly forward and left

With practice, this all becomes second nature -- you may even surprise yourself with how stable you really are on the spyder.

All the best .... Ann

[Mikey]

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[Woodaddict]

ever ride a 4 wheeler??? similar in style, throws your body in opposite direction. you'll get used to it

[BajaRon]

Hey to all. Dont quite understand the spyder in turns. I am very new to riding. It would seem to me that if you turn left the spyder would lean to the right and the left wheel would have tendency to rise up. (You are exactly right on both counts) But everything I read it is the opposite. (I do not know where you are reading this, but this is absolutely wrong) Turn left too fast and sharp the right wheel can rise up. I am confused. (I would simply forget you saw this information and go with your first understanding) Like I said I am a new rider and just getting my feet wet.Thanks

Very strange! I personally have never seen the information you are referencing. I must have missed it.

[sandyhdds]

Thanks for your advice. My original thinking WAS correct. Must have misunderstood what I was reading. I also read about you sway bar and I think it would be good to install
Thanks again

[Mike0123]

Very strange! I personally have never seen the information you are referencing. I must have missed it.

They might have seen this one: https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...n-on-cornering

[BajaRon]

They might have seen this one: https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...n-on-cornering

Yes, I did find this post yesterday and thought at the time, this might be the very post referenced by the OP on this thread. Very confusing because, as written, it has a good number of very misleading statements. I wonder if that person just misunderstood or misspoke. But, whatever the case, it was 180 degrees off on several points. The subject can be confusing enough without adding more baggage to the concepts involved.

[Steve W.]

But everything I read it is the opposite. Turn left too fast and sharp the right wheel can rise up.

It's all in prespective. As you suspect, turn left, you get leaned to the right. Just like your car. However, if you mount a camera to the frame of the Spyder, in that same left turn, you would see an apparent rise of the right wheel as the suspension compresses. Trust me, that right-side wheel is getting planted MUCH more firmly into the pavement, it is NOT going to come off the ground.

If ANY wheel is going to come off the ground, it would be the left-front,
and I don't think Nanny would allow that.

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[BajaRon]

It's all in prespective. As you suspect, turn left, you get leaned to the right. Just like your car. However, if you mount a camera to the frame of the Spyder, in that same left turn, you would see an apparent rise of the right wheel as the suspension compresses. Trust me, that right-side wheel is getting planted MUCH more firmly into the pavement, it is NOT going to come off the ground.

If ANY wheel is going to come off the ground, it would be the left-front,
and I don't think Nanny would allow that.

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The Nanny doesn't like it. But the left wheel (in this scenario) can come off the ground. Done right, you can get a front wheel off the ground fairly easily. Though the Spyder will remain quite stable, even with 1 wheel lifted. It won't stay up long.
You can also flip a Spyder without too much difficulty. Run at a fairly good speed in reverse and turn quickly. You will be able to flip your Spyder every time. Assuming that is your goal. The ones I've seen do it were very surprised...They expected the same stability in reverse that they had going forward.

The Spyder is not dangerous going in reverse. You have to be pretty foolish to have a problem. Still, not a bad idea to keep this in mind.

When backing a Spyder, you are actually converting it to a conventional trike, which is not nearly as stable as the Reverse Trike configuration of the Spyder.

[sandyhdds]

Steve Thank you

[trong]

If you want feel more comfortable and confident on the Spyder I highly recommend you take the Spyder/Ryker Riding course. I think they still offer that for $99. It is a two-day course and I think you can learn quite a few tricks and tips there. My wife took the course in July and she feels more confident riding our Spyder RTL, she's been riding a 200cc scooter for years. I've been riding motorcycles for almost five decades and seriously it took about 500 miles before I feel confident on the Spyder. It took her just two days for that.
Cheers.

[RICZ]

Sandy, I feel your pain about left curves. That was the hardest and longest thing for me to overcome.
Here's a funny story on me about that. My test ride was my first time on a Spyder after 68 years of riding 2 wheelers my body and brain were programed for what a motorcycle does. I went to ride the 3 blocks to an empty parking lot to get the feel for it. On the route there was an off camber left curve. As I entered it, doing no more than maybe 15 mph, the bike leaned to the right. Right then, my bain said WE'RE GOING TO DIE!!! I hit the brake and stopped, then just tip-toed around it. In the parking lot, I practiced a lot of left and right turns on the flat pavement and figured I can do this and bought it. A friend told me it will take 1,000 miles to get comfortable and another 1,000 before I would feel in control. He was right. Today, I'm a banshee in the curves. You'll get there, be patient.
I will end with a riding tip - just one. When in a curve, PUSH HARD with your outside foot, like you are trying to pry you cheek off the saddle. It helps.

[sandyhdds]

Thanks That helps

[Mazo EMS2]

Loose grip, eyes up and always looking as far down the road as possible. Always look at where you want to go, NOT where you are. Push and pull equally on the bars, as you feel your body weight shift, put downward support on the foot that's on the outside of the corner. Lean into the corner a bit as well. Steady on the throttle, don't ride the brake, smooth motion, brake BEFORE the corner, NOT during/in the corner.

[SMITT15]

Totally agree with this instruction, it worked for me as a rider for 6 months

[Catalyst105]

Turning left, push the right handlebar away with a relaxed grip while leaning left with head just above left mirror looking through the turn keeping back straight and head vertical, inside of left knee bracing against the tank and with weight on your right foot. Do the opposite for turning right.
These videos show good body position.

https://youtu.be/9p_nAyXFTKM

https://youtu.be/nPI1Unf2aro

https://youtu.be/8KDE3C1nj5U