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    Hello, my quest continues, was wondering about 2 bikes I've found
    both 2015 rts special series identical paint and all. One is bone stock including tires and 12,000 miles, no records he did say his friend has changed his oil. The other has 39,000 miles vented windshield, new car tires up front, backrest, baker wings,spyder air intake grills and laser alignment. he has record of 28,000 mile maintenance and just had oil changed and bike checked out yesterday, the later will also throw in 2 helmets with sena blue tooth and a cover as well.
    Price is close to the same, I usually lean toward vehicles with better maintenance but the one isn;t really due for much maintenance at that mileage.

    If both ride the same which way to go ????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transam87020 View Post
    Hello, my quest continues, was wondering about 2 bikes I've found
    both 2015 rts special series identical paint and all. One is bone stock including tires and 12,000 miles, no records he did say his friend has changed his oil. The other has 39,000 miles vented windshield, new car tires up front, backrest, baker wings,spyder air intake grills and laser alignment. he has record of 28,000 mile maintenance and just had oil changed and bike checked out yesterday, the later will also throw in 2 helmets with sena blue tooth and a cover as well.
    Price is close to the same, I usually lean toward vehicles with better maintenance but the one isn;t really due for much maintenance at that mileage.

    If both ride the same which way to go ????
    Well IMHO Rotax engines are pretty much bullet-proof.... maintenance records are important .... Kenda tires are crap .... the extra's on bike #2 cost Him about $ 1000.00 +/- ..... and they are pretty popular Mods ...... good luck ..... PS how much are they asking for each ???? ..... Mike

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    At just over 2K miles per year, I can't help but wonder if those miles were put on early, and if it has been sitting too long. You'll likely need new tires and other maintenance. At 39k, you may run into a bit of maintenance, but with the good upkeep I doubt that will amount to much. Unless you are a heavy rider and may need those extra miles at the end of the bike's life, it may be the better value. At the very least, have the 12K bike checked out by somebody who really knowns their stuff (other NM people may have a suggestion).
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    I would go with the one that has 28,000 miles on it. For the reason that MRH stated.

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    The mileage is pretty close, same year, I think I am with Mike, I would go with the one that's got the extras #2! There all things that you'll properly going to do anyway. Good luck in your shopping!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUEKNIGHT911 View Post
    Well IMHO Rotax engines are pretty much bullet-proof.... maintenance records are important .... Kenda tires are crap .... the extra's on bike #2 cost Him about $ 1000.00 +/- ..... and they are pretty popular Mods ...... good luck ..... PS how much are they asking for each ???? ..... Mike
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    Dealers can check the VIN # and let you know the maintenance history on both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TicketBait View Post
    I would go with the one that has 28,000 miles on it. For the reason that MRH stated.
    The second bike has 39,000 miles not 28,000. It had it's 28k service.
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    My first instinct would be to go with the one with the fewer miles. But I also take a look at photos of each. Don't just look at the bike, but look at the surrounding area. Check out the things that you might see in the background such as other cars, lawns, house, etc. If they take good care of the other items, then there is a good indicator that they take care of the spyder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP58 View Post
    The second bike has 39,000 miles not 28,000. It had it's 28k service.
    Still would go with the one that has been ridden more over that period of time, and as ARtravler pointed out you can get a maintenance history. Thats just between 7-10K per year. With checking both vin#'s you might be able to see if the other spyder had updates done under buds even though the owner did oil changes as to what the mileage might have been over the years. Good luck!
    FWIW the battery is probably at it's max life, so keep that in mind.

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    So I bought the bike with the higher mileage Saturday. Seller was retired Lt Colonel air force though served in army also. (Chopper pilot Air Calvary in Nam , Air Force pilot c130's in Desert Storm and now a lawyer ) He had the oil changed and a check done at dealer on bike before I bought it. Over $400. Super nice guy, plus he did throw in the helmets with Sena ax30 headsets. Had receipts for them , was like a grand for all. Put about 160 miles on it so far so getting a little used to it though I drive like miss daisy on the twisties. Are there any power adders for these guys.
    Thanks all for the input, let the adventure begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transam87020 View Post
    So I bought the bike with the higher mileage Saturday. Seller was retired Lt Colonel air force though served in army also. (Chopper pilot Air Calvary in Nam , Air Force pilot c130's in Desert Storm and now a lawyer ) He had the oil changed and a check done at dealer on bike before I bought it. Over $400. Super nice guy, plus he did throw in the helmets with Sena ax30 headsets. Had receipts for them , was like a grand for all. Put about 160 miles on it so far so getting a little used to it though I drive like miss daisy on the twisties. Are there any power adders for these guys.
    Thanks all for the input, let the adventure begin.
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    I bought a 2015 RTS about a year ago with 3600 miles on it. It has been flawlwss for me, I did replace the front tires... it also depends on how/where it was stored.... outside under a car awning, is not the same as in a garage... 2 cents... oh, my bike had the initial oil change, and that was it. I had it serviced at 5K, not a problem... I like it better than my wifes 2018 RTL...
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    Looked really hard at that low mileage one and took it for a ride. It was flawless but the guy was like I owe $15k on it but will sell in the $13's to get out from under it. I'll give a bill of sale and then when I get the title from a bank back east I'll get it to you. He then said he was selling everything including his house to get out of debt. Maybe he's legit but ..........uh, no thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Transam87020 View Post
    Looked really hard at that low mileage one and took it for a ride. It was flawless but the guy was like I owe $15k on it but will sell in the $13's to get out from under it. I'll give a bill of sale and then when I get the title from a bank back east I'll get it to you. He then said he was selling everything including his house to get out of debt. Maybe he's legit but ..........uh, no thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transam87020 View Post
    Looked really hard at that low mileage one and took it for a ride. It was flawless but the guy was like I owe $15k on it but will sell in the $13's to get out from under it. I'll give a bill of sale and then when I get the title from a bank back east I'll get it to you. He then said he was selling everything including his house to get out of debt. Maybe he's legit but ..........uh, no thank you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Transam87020 View Post
    Looked really hard at that low mileage one and took it for a ride. It was flawless but the guy was like I owe $15k on it but will sell in the $13's to get out from under it. I'll give a bill of sale and then when I get the title from a bank back east I'll get it to you. He then said he was selling everything including his house to get out of debt. Maybe he's legit but ..........uh, no thank you.

    lol I bet it was HOT, or better yet, as someone said RUN... lol you would never see the title...
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