Spyder neglected abandoned , Found it and i am bring it back to life

[Kilatore]

Hello to all,

First let me introduce my self , i Live in Qatar and i am a bike lover since 9 years old ,most of my bikes are maintained by myself currently i own a HD road king 2010(my love) and a Ducati 696 2011.

so the story is i was checking some online ads and i found 2012 spyder fro sale for 1000$ with 17000 km (10563 miles) the guy was calming that the bike is having a issue with the throttle bodies and the dealer quoted him for a repair of 2100$ , so he refused and left it so burn under the hot sun for almost 2 years.

I felt that this is a god deal knowing that the engine is in good shape and have the 2 bros exhaust so i took it from him for 800 $

started working on the bike, got the service manual (pdf) searched for information all over internet did't find alot compared to a HD's, then thank god found spyderlovers where i can share my issues ..


so fare i did alto of panel removal's and omg seems for any service you need to remove all the panels, oil changed (not the filter) just want to make sure the bike starts, and starting the troubleshoot ,

bike cranks with no issues, filled the cylinder with gas and it starts and reves normally for until it runs out of gas ,throttle bodies looks clean nad responsive .

the current issue i am facing is the fuel , turning the key in ignition i dont hear the fuel pump buzzing (i normally hear it in all of my bikes) fuses are good ,did a quick test plugging the battery to the b and c terminals of the pump and it seems dead.
now before i remove the fuel tanks to check further as it a painful job is their any tips i can get from you guys to move forward.

Dealer visit is out of the way this is a DIY .

thanks you guys in advance

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[Mikey]

Are you getting any power to the fuel pump when you turn the key on? Have you put a meter on it? Can you disconnect the fuel line at the carb and see if it flowing! I haven't really looked at the location of my fuel pump on my bike, but knowing how they like packing a ten pound bag in two pounds, the left side of that tank must be a bear to get to!! That being said I would want to make sure that it's getting the power first and that it's NOT pumping before I ripped it down to find out it was a bad relay or wire! My 2 cents!! Good luck, I hate electrical problems!!

[Freddy]

Are you getting any power to the fuel pump when you turn the key on? Have you put a meter on it? Can you disconnect the fuel line at the carb and see if it flowing! I haven't really looked at the location of my fuel pump on my bike, but knowing how they like packing a ten pound bag in two pounds, the left side of that tank must be a bear to get to!! That being said I would want to make sure that it's getting the power first and that it's NOT pumping before I ripped it down to find out it was a bad relay or wire! My 2 cents!! Good luck, I hate electrical problems!!

Well' that a useful step. Yes K, the fuel pump should prime for several seconds after the key is turned on. As the fuses are ok it's out with a volt meter to get to trace the cause.

[Kilatore]

Thanks Mikey , i probably would do that before going full retard removing the thank as its the only way to remove the fuel pump ,its located under the main frame and it need to be pulled upwards for the removal.

i also hate electrical problems specially when it comes to tracing cables.

i will keep you posted with the progress

[Greven]

This sounds like a nice project, I will follow it with great interest!
Hopefully it isnt too hard to sort out, and you end up with a awesome bike basically for free =D

[Kilatore]

Indeed it is special in these times

So tested the voltage and all good 12v coming from the wires, so seems the fuel pump is gone to destination lala land.

Comes the tank removal,, grrrr imposibel I removed now all the panels the side frame holding the radiator lowered the break cylinder and nothing. Any advise how to remove this tank

[Kilatore]

Hallelujah, thank out and OMG how filthy it is gas looks like mud .. and and the pump all rusted .... placed a order ffor a Quantum Pump should be here in 15 days if all is smooth mean wile cleaning time

will be posting picture once on the PC...

and i am so scared now to light a cigarette .....

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Hallelujah, thank out and OMG how filthy it is gas looks like mud .. and and the pump all rusted .... placed a order ffor a Quantum Pump should be here in 15 days if all is smooth mean wile cleaning time

will be posting picture once on the PC...

and i am so scared now to light a cigarette .....

First let me be the first to and on getting a Spyder ..... I think your Spyder is an RSS model ??? ... if so it's an up-grade to the RS ..... CHEAPCYCLEPARTS.COM has multiple Fiches' that will show you where and how all the pieces fit together. .... But even better is getting a SHOP Manual on-line, cost about $30.00 ( US $ ) ....... Finding this web site is the second good thing after buying the Spyder .... lots of smart people here, who will go out of their way to help you ..... you can take a peek at my Albums to see SOME of what I have done ..... To keep you safe after you get it running , take a look at the " Do's and Do nots " Thread for info about the best way to drive the Spyder. That may save you a lot of trial and error ...... good luck .... Mike

[Kilatore]

Thanks BLUEKNIGHT911 really appreciate it , yes its an RSS (to be) thanks again for the site sure i will have a look at it hopping that i will not need to buy many more parts ...the shop manual i got before getting the bike ,read some parts of it to see if i can handle it (better to be ready)
for the mode i am gonna hold a bit on this ,, lets focus on starting the bike first.

so after my struggle with the fuel tank today below attached is what was inside the tank ( if your eating better to stop).

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inside tank
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rusted fuel pump
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dont know if this is fuel or mud
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[BLUEKNIGHT911]

OMG that is Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasty ..............Mike

[Haze]

Thanks for the photos and the update.
You are making progress. IMO disassembly is the the hard part.
Congratulations and welcome to the SpyderLovers site.

[Mikey]

oh my god, what did the past owner do to that bike!!!! Good job so far my friend! What do you think the rest of the fuel system looks like, hope it didn't load the rest of it up with the crap that was in the tank!!!!

[Kilatore]

yeh Mikey, hope this did not go in the injectors ,, in all cases i will inspect the fuel lines and cleaning the throttles till they shine and injectors also.... as per the old owner he did not start the bike for 2 years so my guess all the rust build up was from the bike sting idle.

And one quick update ,, because i am a patient guy and i am waiting for the new fuel pump to arrive ,, i rushed to a spare part store and got a 20$ pump to continue the troubleshooting , to find out that the fuel pump is exactly the same .. so now i can confirm that this was already tampered with and they placed a junk in the tank before,, also found some fence wire to hole the pump in palace that initial started the rusting.

So now i am rebuilding the pump assemble ( because i am patient ) and going to put it in a small bucket to continue my tests until the Quantum pump come..

also any good way to clean the tank from inside from the rust ..

[Freddy]

No doubt you know there's a fuel filter a short distance from the tank on the right side. I use a larger auto filter (easier and cheaper to get) with the same 8mm ends.

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

No doubt you know there's a fuel filter a short distance from the tank on the right side. I use a larger auto filter (easier and cheaper to get) with the same 8mm ends.

and from the pics of the gas tank I'm sure this is also what the inside of that filter will look like ...... Change it also ..... Mike

[Kilatore]

Morning Guys, First SHE IS ALIVE



Ok so did a quick test to confirm that the bike is working and tanks god it is..

and yes Freddy i will change the filter, i suppose your talking about this onefilter.JPG.

So now i removed the throttle body started cleaning and ooohhhhh man

this is the befor
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and after some love
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Later on goin to do clean the injector and make sure they are working properly , i will keep you posted guys , i know i will face issues once everything is back

[PW2013STL]

While you are there replace all the rubber air lines with silicone ones from any auto parts store. The stock lines are a known issue.

[Bfromla]

patient & determined, looking forward to updates as you progress glad to see it has a good home.

[Haze]

Hope this video helps with the gas tank restoration.
I especially like the coating process to preserve the tank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNasREUrUVU

[oldgoat]

I'm enjoying your posts

Keep up the good work, you should be proud of yourself.

Loved the sound of it running!

[Kilatore]

Hi guys, Bad News today its family day , so no work was done on the bike

PW2013STL defitly will do that as it s a good measure to eliminate doubts ,appreciate that.

HAZE thanks you for the video , funny thing is that the tank is already soaked in vinegar since yesterday , the coating part i will check if i can ..scared if gaz will not sp good and and will end up with more issues in the engine .

will post updates tomorrow ,

Stay safe

[nightcruiser]

If its running until the fuel runs out hen the pump must be working,, right?

[gkamer]

IMO disassembly is the the hard part.

I never had any problem taking things apart. It's the putting back together thing that causes me issues. I never know what do do with the left over parts.......

[Peter Aawen]

...... I never know what do do with the left over parts.......

Jeez Greg, you never admit that!!

There's actually a simple and obvious solution to 'what to do with the left over parts' - haven't you noticed that every 'good' mechanic has a bin or a box or maybe a shelf of 'might come in handy' bits & odd pieces, parts, & other strange gear'?? And that invariably, that bin/box/shelf is where they go when absobloodylutely nothing else has worked, or when they need an 'odd part' that's impossible to source readily.... and cos that's where all those 'left over bits' and/or any 'after the job spare' bits go, that's where all the spare 'come in handy' or 'lifesaving' bits come from - every time!

So you just need a bin/box/shelf too; just like all the pro's!


I'm obviously not a 'pro' tho.... I don't have a bin, a box, or a shelf.... I've got a whole bleedin' shed full!! So of course, I can never find the bit I need - I know it's in there tho, I just can't readily find it!!

[Mikey]

On coating that tank, I have seen personally that coating a tank may not be a good idea! If it don't leak leave it alone would be my choice of directions! My friend had one done once, by some one that should have known what he was doing, painted cars all his life and had all the knloage of paints and what to do with them! After about a year he was having a fuel problem with his bike, come to find out the coating was coming apart and working it's way threw the system! Ended up pealing the coating out and getting the bike straightened out, it was a long summer for him, and getting a new tank the next year. Think hard on coating, if it dont leak leave it alone would be my choice. Un less you could find one in a bone yard some where! Good Luck and GOOD JOB so far, Love that test tank to get her running!!!!