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Seat Belts
Has anyone installed them? My co-rider thinks she would feel safer with one.
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Originally Posted by wmjkweber02
Has anyone installed them? My co-rider thinks she would feel safer with one.
Ask if she would rather be strapped onto one of these or thrown clear?
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Without a roll cage it would be purely for some medical condition that called for it but even then not a good plan.
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Another NO vote for seat belt(s). If your co-rider thinks she'd feel safer with one it's time to consider a Slingshot IMO.
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No, and don't ever say anything about seat belts on motorcycles where anyone from National Highway Traffic Safety Administration might hear you. Whisper it if you have to say it. Often, common sense does not enter into decisions made by some agencies.
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I remember a few years ago, someone posed (on another forum) that his state had a law that if your motorcycle had seat belts, you didn't have to wear a helmet. So he installed the seatbelts so he could ride without a helmet. The law didn't say you had to use the belts, just that you had to have them.
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Does the name Joan Claybrook and her safety motorcycle not strike terror in your heart? Another example of Jimmah Carter's weird administration.
https://www.google.com/search?q=joan...WxxbTYbi89c1M:
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Originally Posted by Pennyrick
Ask if she would rather be strapped onto one of these or thrown clear?
pennyrick
Exactly what I was thinking! I hope they never pass legislation that requires seatbelts for motorcycles.....I'm going to be a criminal!
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Originally Posted by wmjkweber02
Has anyone installed them? My co-rider thinks she would feel safer with one.
My wife sleeps back there during twisties or POURING DOWN RAIN. I don't even have to give her Valium, but perhaps you should, or perhaps wine in her sippy cup. Happy wife, happy Spydering.
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Originally Posted by wmjkweber02
Has anyone installed them? My co-rider thinks she would feel safer with one.
I wasn't gonna, but I feel I must...
Sure, she might feel 'safer' if she's strapped on top of a few hundred kilos of machinery, fully exposed & unable to escape the potential damage from being hit by another vehicle &/or the scenery.... But seriously, all she hasta do is look at the injuries usually incurred in motorcycle accidents, then multiply the amount of skin & flesh that'd get ground away as a result of those by about 1000% if she gets trapped between the tarmac & a sliding Spyder!! I HAVE SEEN what happens when this 'strapped onto the top of a tumbling &/or sliding motorcycle' thing occurs, and I still have nightmares about it! I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy!!
So wmjk, if YOU value her life, well being, &/or appearance AT ALL, then you've gotta talk her out of even dreaming about fitting seatbelts to a Spyder.... unless you also fit a full-on Roll Cage too!
Ps: my Missus sleeps back there too, with absolutely no concerns or feeling of ever even getting close to falling off!
Last edited by Peter Aawen; 05-17-2020 at 05:49 AM.
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My wife has also take many naps on the back of our two-wheeled motorcycles. Starting back in 1979.
All the bikes were full-dressers, so she had a trunk to lean on for stability. Our current Goldwing also has arm rests, which just adds to her stability.
Since she got back on her own two wheels in about 2004, she hasn't been on the back of my bike much, and now she has her Spyder, so no more napping.
Please cancel the idea of seatbelts. If she wants a little bit of protection, look into an airbag suit.
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The first thing I have to ask, is what are you riding and dose she have a back rest and arm rest? My wife would not ride with me with out them, we have gone on test rides on other bikes and that is the first thing she'll say when we get off is, it would need arm rests! But on the other hand , I have to tell you I bought my bike from a older couple from New Hampshire, and it had a seat belt in the rear for the lady that rode on it! She had a habit of taking a little nap back there I guess and when she felt the need for a rest she would hook up!! That was the first thing I had removed from the bike!! A nice set of arm rests that wrap around would make her feel a ton safer I would think! Good Luck!!
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The first thing I thought of:
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Originally Posted by JayBros
Another NO vote for seat belt(s). If your co-rider thinks she'd feel safer with one it's time to consider a Slingshot IMO.
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Safety is our primary concern. We DO NOT recommend that you fasten a seatbelt, nor should you attach yourself to the motorcycle in any manner, as that may interfere with an emergency exit. Each motorcycle has been equipped with a 360° emergency exit system. In the event of an emergency, and, for passengers, at the direction of your rider, please leave the motorcycle in the direction of your choice.
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Did you nice the "Safety Motorcycle" in post 7 steered via the REAR WHEEL? That must have been thrilling to ride.
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Originally Posted by wmjkweber02
Has anyone installed them? My co-rider thinks she would feel safer with one.
Not knowing what model you are riding, I would #1 never put seat belts on a bike and #2 if she feels like she is flying off
in the turns, Install arm rests. Your wife will love them
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I have to say, frankly, I am disappointed by the responses in this thread. Most of the responses are about seatbelts on a motorcycle. I did not ask about seatbelts on a motorcycle!! I have ridden two wheels for more than five decades and would not consider it. But a Spyder is not a motorcycle. It does not ride or handle like a motorcycle and most certainly would not behave like one in a collision. My (unsupported) feeling is that my F3L (with armrests, BTW) would most likely stay upright in a minor to moderate collision. Would staying with the machine reduce injuries? I don’t know, and without a real study, no one else does either. Gut feelings (my own included) are often wrong and are no substitute for hard evidence.
In any case, comments about sippy cups, tranquilizers, getting a car, etc. are not helpful and IMO, have no place on a forum that I expected be thoughtful and supportive. I was always told that there are no stupid questions and that an honest question deserves a thoughtful and reasoned response. Obviously not everyone here agrees with that.
I asked a simple question about seat belts on a Spyder. As a retired engineer, I thought it was a perfectly reasonable question. Grisly photos and sarcastic, demeaning, and insulting comments are not what I would have expected from a forum to support riders. Apparently, this subject is an emotional trigger for some people. If there is anything that will get in the way of rational discussion it is raw emotions.
I am not going to get into arguments or a flame war, so this will be my last comment on the subject.
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I would not want to be strapped to anything that only weighs a half ton and might be going up against 2.5 to 3.5 ton, or more, machine in a wreck.
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Seatbelts without a roll cage is looking for trouble. You don't want to be attached to a Spyder if it flips over.
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Originally Posted by wmjkweber02
I have to say, frankly, I am disappointed by the responses in this thread. Most of the responses are about seatbelts on a motorcycle. I did not ask about seatbelts on a motorcycle!! I have ridden two wheels for more than five decades and would not consider it. But a Spyder is not a motorcycle. It does not ride or handle like a motorcycle and most certainly would not behave like one in a collision. My (unsupported) feeling is that my F3L (with armrests, BTW) would most likely stay upright in a minor to moderate collision. Would staying with the machine reduce injuries? I don’t know, and without a real study, no one else does either. Gut feelings (my own included) are often wrong and are no substitute for hard evidence.
In any case, comments about sippy cups, tranquilizers, getting a car, etc. are not helpful and IMO, have no place on a forum that I expected be thoughtful and supportive. I was always told that there are no stupid questions and that an honest question deserves a thoughtful and reasoned response. Obviously not everyone here agrees with that.
I asked a simple question about seat belts on a Spyder. As a retired engineer, I thought it was a perfectly reasonable question. Grisly photos and sarcastic, demeaning, and insulting comments are not what I would have expected from a forum to support riders. Apparently, this subject is an emotional trigger for some people. If there is anything that will get in the way of rational discussion it is raw emotions.
I am not going to get into arguments or a flame war, so this will be my last comment on the subject.
Wow! I think it might be time to take a deep breath and relax! Maybe too much Covid-19 incarceration has had an effect. Personally, I didn't see any of the issues you lament. Other than the crash pictures. Granted, a bit harsh. But posted in good faith to make a point.
Though not 2 wheels, the Spyder is considered a 'Motorcycle'. And though there are differences, as you point out. Seat belts on a Spyder are a bad idea for the same basic reasons that they are a bad idea on a 2 wheeled vehicle.
It is always good to be sure that you actually WANT meaningful answers before you ask the question. Hopefully, we can get this train back on the tracks. And just chalk this one up as an 'Unnecessary Derailment'. As I think the consensus here is that there are better, and safer ways of helping your wife feel more secure on the Spyder. A consensus for which I whole-heartedly agree.
This, I think, is what we all assumed that you wanted to know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAomAwIwxm8
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