2020 RT Limited - rpm/whining noise issue. Anyone else?

[mrwog]

I recently bought a 2020 RT Limited on March 4th and after about 200 miles, 300 on it now. In 4th 5th and 6th gear I'm getting an excessive whining noise at certain RPM's and it's really loud.
Took it back to the dealer and they took it for a ride, the tech came back and confirmed the issue. He thought it may be transmission noise and not the belt. So I left it with them to investigate. Today they called and said they adjusted the belt several different ways with no change with the whining still there. They called BRP and BRP said they have not had any dealers call on this issue yet.
They have sold 3 2020's and no one has gotten back with this issue. The tech took another one out and came back with the same noise, so the service manager took both out and came back surprised it was so loud. I have known the service manager for over 30 years and he is a friend and a straight shooter and will deal with this. The tech put a post on the dealer only forum asking if any other tech's are having this issue.
With that said they want me to put about 3k miles on it and we'll do an oil change and see what's what. I'm patient and being a mechanic for along time I'll play the game for a bit. I do allot of riding not being a weekend rider only so I'll get the 3k miles on soon, hope I don't get stranded on the back mountain roads with no cell service, I guess I can send smoke signals
Any one else dealing with this?
Paul

[safecracker]

Sorry to hear about this issue. Glad you have good dealer. I am sure they will resolve issue. Bruce

[Peter Aawen]

Juuust a thought here, but back in the early days of Spyders & their belts, there were quite a few new owners complaining about 'whining'..... IIRC the fix was a 'pea-sized dab' of belt lube on the rear sprocket, and I have a feeling that BRP issued a notification of some sort about it. I certainly recall seeing a 'BRP provided pic' showing how little lube/grease was needed, and there was info about the preferred lube/grease too.

Maybe someone with a less active 'forgettory' than mine on this one could fill in a bit more detail, or even find the notification/image?!

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Juuust a thought here, but back in the early days of Spyders & their belts, there were quite a few new owners complaining about 'whining'..... IIRC the fix was a 'pea-sized dab' of belt lube on the rear sprocket, and I have a feeling that BRP issued a notification of some sort about it. I certainly recall seeing a 'BRP provided pic' showing how little lube/grease was needed, and there was info about the preferred lube/grease too.

Maybe someone with a less active 'forgettory' than mine on this one could fill in a bit more detail, or even find the notification/image?!

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https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...=1#post1501613

[mrwog]

Thanks I'll investigate this. Any one with info on this I'd love to here from

[Snowbelt Spyder]

What Peter is referring to is a very unmistakable belt squeal that occurred under acceleration. Mostly the lower gears. It doesn't exactly fit what you have. But, a quick and dirty test is to wash your belt - leave it soapy and slippery - and go out for a spin. If the noise is gone, it's coming from your belt. If not, then that service blurb probably will be of no help; except for the part that says to verify tension. Ask your dealer to set your tension lower if you think it could be related to that.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lo4...ew?usp=sharing

(The 2020's should have been re-designed to have a shaft drive anyway.)

[mrwog]

What Peter is referring to is a very unmistakable belt squeal that occurred under acceleration. Mostly the lower gears. It doesn't exactly fit what you have. But, a quick and dirty test is to wash your belt - leave it soapy and slippery - and go out for a spin. If the noise is gone, it's coming from your belt. If not, then that service blurb probably will be of no help; except for the part that says to verify tension. Ask your dealer to set your tension lower if you think it could be related to that.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lo4...ew?usp=sharing

(The 2020's should have been re-designed to have a shaft drive anyway.)

Thanks

[mrwog]

What Peter is referring to is a very unmistakable belt squeal that occurred under acceleration. Mostly the lower gears. It doesn't exactly fit what you have. But, a quick and dirty test is to wash your belt - leave it soapy and slippery - and go out for a spin. If the noise is gone, it's coming from your belt. If not, then that service blurb probably will be of no help; except for the part that says to verify tension. Ask your dealer to set your tension lower if you think it could be related to that.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lo4...ew?usp=sharing

(The 2020's should have been re-designed to have a shaft drive anyway.)

It didn't really sound to me it was coming from the belt, sounded more internal.

[ThreeWheels]

Are you sure it's coming from the back of the bike ?
When I picked my bike up, I had a mysterious whine coming out of the left fender.
It was a piece of plastic that should have been tucked in place under the fender to protect the fender support.
It had come loose and was rubbing against the tire.
I hope this helps.

[mrwog]

Are you sure it's coming from the back of the bike ?
When I picked my bike up, I had a mysterious whine coming out of the left fender.
It was a piece of plastic that should have been tucked in place under the fender to protect the fender support.
It had come loose and was rubbing against the tire.
I hope this helps.

Interesting

[mrwog]

Are you sure it's coming from the back of the bike ?
When I picked my bike up, I had a mysterious whine coming out of the left fender.
It was a piece of plastic that should have been tucked in place under the fender to protect the fender support.
It had come loose and was rubbing against the tire.
I hope this helps.

Mine happens at certain rpm's only in the taller gears

[trikermutha]

It might be gear mesh. Break it in more then have the oil changed. Really hard to give a better answer since we are. Not there to hear it.

[AVBIZ]

I recently bought a 2020 RT Limited on March 4th and after about 200 miles, 300 on it now. In 4th 5th and 6th gear I'm getting an excessive whining noise at certain RPM's and it's really loud.
Took it back to the dealer and they took it for a ride, the tech came back and confirmed the issue. He thought it may be transmission noise and not the belt. So I left it with them to investigate. Today they called and said they adjusted the belt several different ways with no change with the whining still there. They called BRP and BRP said they have not had any dealers call on this issue yet.
They have sold 3 2020's and no one has gotten back with this issue. The tech took another one out and came back with the same noise, so the service manager took both out and came back surprised it was so loud. I have known the service manager for over 30 years and he is a friend and a straight shooter and will deal with this. The tech put a post on the dealer only forum asking if any other tech's are having this issue.
With that said they want me to put about 3k miles on it and we'll do an oil change and see what's what. I'm patient and being a mechanic for along time I'll play the game for a bit. I do allot of riding not being a weekend rider only so I'll get the 3k miles on soon, hope I don't get stranded on the back mountain roads with no cell service, I guess I can send smoke signals
Any one else dealing with this?
Paul

Sounds like you have done all the right things. I’m sure you have done this already but if not document dates/names/instruction from dealer/BRP ....you may be required to recall these details in the future. Sounds like the dealer is owning it so I would only do what they prescribe going forward.

[mrwog]

Sounds like you have done all the right things. I’m sure you have done this already but if not document dates/names/instruction from dealer/BRP ....you may be required to recall these details in the future. Sounds like the dealer is owning it so I would only do what they prescribe going forward.

Being mechanically inclined I wanted to dig in further but thought...wait, I paid a lot of $ for this toy and I took it right away to them. As you say, they're owning it.

The good thing is I've known the service manager for over 30 years...��

[Tango]

Mine has it also. Have not mentioned it to the dealer service staff yet. It is in the higher gears as you pick up speed. Above that speed the noise disappears. And it sounds like it is from the front left fender area. Tom

[mrwog]

Mine has it also. Have not mentioned it to the dealer service staff yet. It is in the higher gears as you pick up speed. Above that speed the noise disappears. And it sounds like it is from the front left fender area. Tom

Keep us posted if you would.

[mrwog]

Mine has it also. Have not mentioned it to the dealer service staff yet. It is in the higher gears as you pick up speed. Above that speed the noise disappears. And it sounds like it is from the front left fender area. Tom

If it's when you pick up speed it may be belt alignment, mine does it in 4th at 3100 rpm and in 5th at 3000 rpm if you stay at this rpm and cruise it is obnoxious and very loud.
The front end like many new spyders was out of alignment perfect now with the laser aligment have it check soon it should cost you nothing.

[TicketBait]

The front end like many new spyders was out of alignment perfect now with the laser aligment have it check soon it should cost you nothing.

How did you know it was out of alignment,

I ask this because the one I test rode for

an hour did not drift or feel out of alignment.

And do all can am dealerships have the laser

equipment to do the alignment? I wonder,

will that be covered under warranty, cuz

couldn't they say you hit a pothole and that's

what caused it.

[Peteoz]

Yeah, but luckily for mrwog it sounds like he has a dealer he can trust completely to get to the bottom of this and other issues, Ticket .......If only we could trust ALL of them like that.

Pete

How did you know it was out of alignment,

I ask this because the one I test rode for

an hour did not drift or feel out of alignment.

And do all can am dealerships have the laser

equipment to do the alignment? I wonder,

will that be covered under warranty, cuz

couldn't they say you hit a pothole and that's

what caused it.

[mrwog]

Yeah, but luckily for mrwog it sounds like he has a dealer he can trust completely to get to the bottom of this and other issues, Ticket .......If only we could trust ALL of them like that.

Pete

I have sold and worked at several Dealers, Cars and bikes over the years. Some are great and stand behind their sales and others as you know..... Welllll.
I'm dealing with H&K motorsports in Hooksett, NH. One of the best dealers in the area. Yes, they have issues like any other business, but they work hard to keep a tight ship.

[stebrock]

The 2018 F3 Limited that I traded on the 2020 RT had this "whine". It was so bad it detracted from my enjoying the ride. It was definitely gear noise. RPM dependent. Started around 3000. Not the belt because it would make the same noise in neutral at 3000 rpm. So relieved that the RT doesn't have this issue. On the F3 the noise came from the housing just forward of the brake pedal.

[murphy]

I have a 2019 F3 Spyder with 800 miles and at 40 to 45 MPH I hear an extremely loud gear whine regardless of what gear I am using. I thought this noise was atypical for these machines.

[Redtail]

I've got about 650 miles on my 2020 RTL and it definitely has a whine. It occurs at 50 +/- 2 mph, regardless of gear or rpm. Can't say whether it's coming from front/back/left/right. I asked the dealer about it. Answer: We haven't heard about that from anyone else. Let it break in for a few thousand miles; should go away. We'll see. In the meantime, 6-speaker stereo + ear plugs and you barely notice it.

[Ryan12]

I see this is an older thread but the whine/noise I'm getting from my 2020 RTL is specifically between 49 and 51 MPH. Not RPM or gear related. It is so ear piercing at that speed that I have to wear ear plugs. If I slow down or speed up out of that range, it goes away...

[mrwog]

How did you know it was out of alignment,

I ask this because the one I test rode for

an hour did not drift or feel out of alignment.

And do all can am dealerships have the laser

equipment to do the alignment? I wonder,

will that be covered under warranty, cuz

couldn't they say you hit a pothole and that's

what caused it.

I had them check it and do it before I took delivery. This is my 3rd Spyder and 2 were out. My new leftover '14 ST was out when I bought it new in '15. I'm sure not all dealers have the laser system.
As far as any issues with a new Spyder with next to no miles on it; it is on them and if the dealer is a stand-up dealership they should fix any issues on a new machine. A lot of Spyders come out with the front end out of alignment.