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And yet ANOTHER cat question
I need some suggestions. I am installing a RLS cat pipe on my 2018 RTL. After some cussing etc I managed to get the springs off. The top being the hardest of course. How do you get the top spring back on??? Almost no room under there for the spring puller, let alone not much visibility. Any help would be appreciated. Machine is up on stands and it is about 8 inches off the floor. I have sifted thru a a lot of the suggestions already posted but they seem to be mostly for the F3. Maybe that model has more clearance or visibility?? Thanks for your help.
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I found the spring puller to be useless. I used a flat screwdriver to pry those hurky springs off and on.
Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
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Loop a piece of para-cord around the handle of the spring puller, long enough that you can do all your pulling from back behind the rear axle. You might need a helper to do the actual pulling while you guide the spring from below, but it isn't really too hard once you get that puller lined up properly.
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I use a piece of wire with a hook on the end and a loop on the other. I put a pair of needle nose vise grips in the loop and the other end of vice grips into the end of the cat delete pipe. When I squeeze the vice grips together it pulls the spring and I can hook it to the pipe. Idea came from Doc.
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I pierced the spring with a flat screwdriver and levered off a block of wood whilst guiding the hook onto the loop with another screwdriver.
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Do not forget the band aids.
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Yeah, it takes King Kong to get that mutha top spring on.......
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All installed and good to go. The top spring is a for real PIA. Using a coat hanger and some leverage finally got it. RLS unit fit like a glove and sounds great. I used the restrictor in the inlet. Low rumble but no "drone" on the hiway. Subtle. I could tell no difference in performance or fuel mileage after about 200 miles , but I am not much of a twister anyhow. Thanks for all the help. If they (CANAM) had rotated the clips 30 degrees it would have made the job easier. Maybe.
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Originally Posted by wifesspyder
All installed and good to go. The top spring is a for real PIA. Using a coat hanger and some leverage finally got it. RLS unit fit like a glove and sounds great. I used the restrictor in the inlet. Low rumble but no "drone" on the hiway. Subtle. I could tell no difference in performance or fuel mileage after about 200 miles , but I am not much of a twister anyhow. Thanks for all the help. If they (CANAM) had rotated the clips 30 degrees it would have made the job easier. Maybe.
Did you put the stock muffler back on? I did at first and wasn't impressed either. I bought a China-Akropovic muffler and sent it to Rick at RLS and he made an elbow pipe that the muffler springs onto($125). It sounds great to me. You can order a muffler like mine on Amazon for around $45.00. Not sure of Amazons ship time, mine from China took 3 weeks for same money.
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I did want to comment that other than the pesky springs, it was an easy change. I was surprised at how heavy the stock unit was/is when it came loose.
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Originally Posted by wifesspyder
I did want to comment that other than the pesky springs, it was an easy change. I was surprised at how heavy the stock unit was/is when it came loose.
My 10 yo great grandson installed my RLS cat delete. With my supervision.
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Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
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IMG_20200415_152818829.jpg Sorry it took me so long to get to this. This is the "tool" I used to get the top spring on. I don't have a helper so I did this. Made out of a hangar and a $2.00 turnbuckle from Lowe's. Hooked the "hook" around the spring end, opened the turnbuckle, pulled tight and secured it to the exhaust. Then crank turn buckle until spring is in position, push spring on, loosen turnbuckle and it's DONE. No cussing, no skinned fingers or knuckles, and spring is secure.
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This is what I use, works great!
I also squeeze the opening of the spring for the side that mounts on the bike to just small enough opening that I can get it on. This way the spring doesn't keep falling off while your stretching it onto the pipe.
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Originally Posted by wifesspyder
IMG_20200415_152818829.jpg Sorry it took me so long to get to this. This is the "tool" I used to get the top spring on. I don't have a helper so I did this. Made out of a hangar and a $2.00 turnbuckle from Lowe's. Hooked the "hook" around the spring end, opened the turnbuckle, pulled tight and secured it to the exhaust. Then crank turn buckle until spring is in position, push spring on, loosen turnbuckle and it's DONE. No cussing, no skinned fingers or knuckles, and spring is secure.
This one needs to be put in the "Stickies" section.
2015 RTS SE6 Special Series Red/Black w/Magnesium front fenders(bought in Nov. 2018 w/9,400 miles)
Dynojet Power Commander V, Power Commander POD-300 Display, PCV Map Switch, Pedal Commander (WOW)
Passenger Arm Rests, Windshield Air Wing
Baja Ron's Sway Bar & Spring Adjusters
Air Scoops, LaMonster's Hiway Pegs
Magnetic Mirror Mounts, Air Innovations Seat Cushion
Red Chrome pin striping on Black hood
Federal Formoza AZ01 front tires (they're GREAT)
Kumho Ecsta AST KU25 All-Season Tire - 225/50R15 91H
LED bars above radiator inlets
LED brake/running/turn signals on license plate frame
Tag-Along trailer
LED headlights LED fog lights (WOW)
2" x 2" Road Lights inside front fenders
7' x 10' Cargo trailer
Garmin 396 LM GPS
RLS Cat-delete resonator with China Akropovic muffler
New Banshee AGM
M3 TPMS on front tires
Remote Control for Heated Jacket and Heated Riding Pants
Analog Clock and Analog Volt Meter
Loose Nut Behind Handlebars
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OK....Next question. In my search for "that sound" I installed a pair of RLS Crusher Mufflers. They look good and other than some bending and tweeking on the mounting brace/bracket, it went on without a hitch. GREAT sound, but just a bit too loud for me. Anybody have any luck toning it down with more baffles ???? Thanks (btw....again I was surprised at how heavy the stock muffler is. I would bet that between the muffler and cat system there is at least 50 lbs and more there)
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Originally Posted by wifesspyder
OK....Next question. In my search for "that sound" I installed a pair of RLS Crusher Mufflers. They look good and other than some bending and tweeking on the mounting brace/bracket, it went on without a hitch. GREAT sound, but just a bit too loud for me. Anybody have any luck toning it down with more baffles ???? Thanks (btw....again I was surprised at how heavy the stock muffler is. I would bet that between the muffler and cat system there is at least 50 lbs and more there)
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