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Syn or semi syn 5-40?
About to do my first oil change. I’m at 3k miles. I see it’s 3.5QTs. I’m so use to using Motul 7100 or 300V in my high performance sport bikes. Might not need the best of the best oil but in my mind I feel better. Anyways I heard you can use car oil. I still think I’m gonna stick with bike oil. What is everyone using?
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OH NO . . . ANOTHER OIL THREAD
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Originally Posted by Stridersr7
About to do my first oil change. I’m at 3k miles. I see it’s 3.5QTs. I’m so use to using Motul 7100 or 300V in my high performance sport bikes. Might not need the best of the best oil but in my mind I feel better. Anyways I heard you can use car oil. I still think I’m gonna stick with bike oil. What is everyone using?
… 3.5 Qts. ???? … what spyder do you have ??? … Last I knew Spyders take 5 Qts. +/- ….. and semi-syn oil is rarely even a 50 / 50 Blend ….. Full Syn oil is only slightly more expensive the Blended if you buy after-market Syn oil ….. Oil is a Very critical part of any engine /trans set-up ….. jmho … Mike
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Originally Posted by Stridersr7
About to do my first oil change. I’m at 3k miles. I see it’s 3.5QTs. I’m so use to using Motul 7100 or 300V in my high performance sport bikes. Might not need the best of the best oil but in my mind I feel better. Anyways I heard you can use car oil. I still think I’m gonna stick with bike oil. What is everyone using?
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Ryker 900. I never said I had a Spyder
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I would stick to full synthetic, and be sure to follow the specs. The Ryker isn't a wet clutch bike so it wouldn't seem that is should need a JASO MA2 oil, but for some reason that's what BRP recommends. It's likely because that's the oil they put in a bunch of their motors, but I would think that a "car oil" would be fine. To be honest, there are literally hundreds of "oils" threads here on the site. Try typing in "what oil should I use" in the search tab in the upper right corner of the page, and you can read til your eyes bleed. Lots of facts and lots of opinions so it's up to you to sort it all out. In the end, just do what the manual says to do and ya can't go wrong. I put the recommended specified oil in my wife's Ryker 900. I use Rotella T-6 in the Spyder RT and in the Ryker...but that's just me and my own 2 cents
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Originally Posted by Stridersr7
Ryker 900. I never said I had a Spyder
I was just waiting for this shoe to drop. I saw it coming from a mile away since you posted on the Ryker forum. But with the 'What's New' format these days. You don't always catch this detail.
I'm going to put engine only oil in my Ryker since it is an 'Engine Only' application. I can get a superior lubricant for less money. Not necessarily recommending it to anyone else. Just the way I'm going to go. I want the advantages that an engine only oil offers over a wet clutch/transmission gear lubricant, since the Ryker has neither.
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Originally Posted by Stridersr7
Hell, get this. Whole gallon for $21
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Rot...-gal/102646780
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I use Rotella T6 Full Synthetic 5W-40. Here is the link for Amazon https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01LH7L0KS..._FGzmEbA23YE9M
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Why does it say Diesel engine oil?
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It is used on Diesel as well as gas engines. That is the only oil I use both in my cars and motorcycles. I own Harley's BMW's now on Can Am Ryker Rally.
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The key is the spec stating JASO MA/MA2 approval. Certified ? Probably not, but approved. It will work without issues... Officially an oil thread
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My 2 and 1/ 2 cents(inflation) Read the specs in your manual. I use any oil that meets the specs. The best mechanic I knew said it's more important to change the oil on time and according to the specs. There are going to be many folks who swear by there brand oil. Disregard the ads on the oil container. I have been using this in my engine and gearbox. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The cheapest oil I could find and I change it on schedule. But there are others that I am sure are just as good.
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I just went ahead and got a gallon of the BRP for the first oil change. Next one will be something different
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Originally Posted by oregoncoast
My 2 and 1/ 2 cents(inflation) Read the specs in your manual. I use any oil that meets the specs. The best mechanic I knew said it's more important to change the oil on time and according to the specs. There are going to be many folks who swear by there brand oil. Disregard the ads on the oil container. I have been using this in my engine and gearbox. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The cheapest oil I could find and I change it on schedule. But there are others that I am sure are just as good.
Is this oil JASO MA2 rated. I can't tell from the bottle and the FAQs say "No"
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Getting back to the OP's actual question " What is everyone using?". I let the dealership do my first oil change at the 3,000 mile inspection. They used the Can-Am semi-syn 5w40. However, I will be doing my own oil changes in the future using a full synthetic 5w40 that meets at least one of the API service classifications (SJ, SL, SM, or SN) as specified by my owners manual.
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Originally Posted by Tslepebull
Getting back to the OP's actual question " What is everyone using?". I let the dealership do my first oil change at the 3,000 mile inspection. They used the Can-Am semi-syn 5w40. However, I will be doing my own oil changes in the future using a full synthetic 5w40 that meets at least one of the API service classifications (SJ, SL, SM, or SN) as specified by my owners manual.
I will use BRP Can-Am semi-syn 5w40 oil for now. But will look at Mobil 1
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Originally Posted by pegasus1300
Is this oil JASO MA2 rated. I can't tell from the bottle and the FAQs say "No"
Since the JASO rating is specifically for wet clutch applications. And since the Ryker has no wet clutch. I would have to ask what relevance a JASO rating has for the Ryker? You don't look for a JASO rating when purchasing oil for your car or truck. Same/Same...
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Originally Posted by Stridersr7
I just went ahead and got a gallon of the BRP for the first oil change. Next one will be something different
I had the dealer do the first change at 3000 miles and they used BEL RAY synthetic blend bulk oil. The receipt does not indicate the version used
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Originally Posted by Jsmith8695
I had the dealer do the first change at 3000 miles and they used BEL RAY synthetic blend bulk oil. The receipt does not indicate the version used
Amazing - if you didn't request it, and or provide it, I find it odd that a DEALER did not use a BRP product ….. this would give me pause about that dealer …… good luck ….. Mike
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Many of us bring to oil selection opinions based upon seat of the pants "feel," or "that's what I've always used" with no factual performance, i.e., oil analysis. From the get go I figured that for all the shekels I've invested in my roadster the chump change expense of oil analysis was the best way to protect my investment and select the oil that performed best under measurable conditions.
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Several people have suggested The Rotella t6 synthetic oil which I am a fan of and use on my quads etc. It does not appear to meet the Api service ratings listed in my manual for the Ryker however. I would not reccomend this oil based on that alone for the Ryker. Per the owners manual ,,Use a 5W40 4-stroke SAE
synthetic engine oil meeting
or exceeding the following
lubricant industry specifications.
Always check the API service label
certification on the oil container, it must
contain at least one of the indicated
standards.
– API service classification SJ, SL,
SM or SN
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I suspect there are very few dealers that would use any other oil than BRP off their shelf.
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