Is there any recommendations for brake pads on my 2017 F3L?
Is draining the brake fluid something I can accomplish at home
or does a spyder shop have to hook up electronics to get everything
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If you wish to change brake pads get them from BajaRon, a site sponsor. He sells the EBC fully sintered brake pads at a fair price. Best brake pads you can get. You can also drain the brake fluid yourself. You don't need BUDS to do it. The only thing that BUDS does is drain the small amount of brake fluid from the ABS module.
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If you're just changing pads, you won't need to bleed/flush your system. Will be a bit easier to compress your brake pad pucks by having the res caps off. Use lots of towels around the reservoirs...
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When changing the rear pads. Make sure the parking brake is off. The caliber piston has to be turned in using a needle nose pliers, or the tool that Ron sells. Do not try pushing it in like you can with the fronts. I opted for Ron's socket as that made the task a lot easier.
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If you're just changing pads, you won't need to bleed/flush your system. Will be a bit easier to compress your brake pad pucks by having the res caps off. Use lots of towels around the reservoirs...
Or just drain it a bit at a time with a turkey baster or vacuum tool to keep it from overflowing as the caliper pistons are retracted....
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I install Speed Bleeders on all my vehicles. The difference is they have a built in check valve where regular one do not. The check valve only allows outward flow of the brake fluid. And the make the task of bleeding stupid easy - and a one man job. I get the best bleeds since I started using Speed Bleeders.
The procedure goes like this after you installed Speed Bleeders:
+ Carefully remove the reservoir cap. It will have brake fluid on it, so have towels at the ready.
+ Using a suction device, such as a baster, draw out all the old fluid. I use a large hypodermic syringe I got after an injection - they just toss them out. That works really well.
+ Carefully fill the reservoir with fresh DOT4 fluid. I cut a small triangular opening in the seal to better control the flow.
+ Attach clear tubing to the bleeder and place the other end in a catch container. The heavier the container the better.
+ Open the bleeder 1/8 to 1/4 turn.
+ Press the brake pedal slowly and do it often enough that you can see clear fluid in the tube.
+ Close the bleeder and remove the tubing, you are done with that caliper.
Order Speed Bleeders direct from speedbleeder.com and it is best to phone your order in so you get the correct ones. They run @ $7 each and shipping is free.
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The fluid is to be flushed and bleed every two years anyway. When doing pads is the perfect time to get the brake fluid flushed as well. We never do one without the other unless it was just recently flushed which is pretty rare as we would have noticed the thin pads at the time.
When changing the rear pads. Make sure the parking brake is off. The caliber piston has to be turned in using a needle nose pliers, or the tool that Ron sells. Do not try pushing it in like you can with the fronts. I opted for Ron's socket as that made the task a lot easier.
Yes. If you don't know, the beeper that warns you that you did not put on your rear brake goes silent about 30 seconds or so after you turn off the key so you can leave the brake off to remove the wheel. The rear caliper piston does "screw" in and a brake tool will do you little good getting it to compress if it's too far out. When I did mine, I used a dowel rod and a hammer to push it in far enough to get the threads to engage. I do know that I will never again let the rear pads get so worn that the piston threads will not engage.
I do know that I will never again let the rear pads get so worn that the piston threads will not engage.
A good lesson learned. Another reason to change at the halfway mark. Pads are cheap enough not to skimp on them.
Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
If you wish to change brake pads get them from BajaRon, a site sponsor. He sells the EBC fully sintered brake pads at a fair price. Best brake pads you can get. You can also drain the brake fluid yourself. You don't need BUDS to do it. The only thing that BUDS does is drain the small amount of brake fluid from the ABS module.
Can't find pads on Baja Ron's Facebook market. I did buy the piston tool for cheap with free shipping.
Can't find pads on Baja Ron's Facebook market. I did buy the piston tool for cheap with free shipping.
Try this: Call him for prices. Use his ad on the home page here to find things. He also sells lots of other accessories.
EBC Fully Sintered Brake Pads - 2013-2019 - All Spyder Models with Brembo brake systems.
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Front Brake Pad Set - 35.95 (You need 2 sets)
Rear Brake Pad Set - $35.95
Full Set = $107.85
These pads will not work with 2012 or earlier model Spyders.
Rear Caliper Piston Retraction Tool $14.95
This handy little tool fits on the end of your 3/8" Drive Ratchet or Extension. When replacing the rear brake pads on you 2013-2019 Can-Am Spyder, you must turn or screw in the rear caliper piston to make room for the new pad set. This little took makes the job much easier. The 2 pins fit perfectly into the corresponding holes on the rear caliper piston so you can turn it.
2013-2019 EBC High Carbon Brake Rotors - All Models (Includes Domestic Shipping)
Front Rotors - $94.95 (Must be replaced as a pair - You need 2)
Rear Rotor - $139.95
Full Set = $329.85
It is not required to replace the rear rotor if you install EBC rotors on the front.
These rotors will not work with 2012 or earlier model Spyders.
EBC Rotors are made from a special Heat Treated, High Carbon Content Stainless Steel giving 20% more friction (stopping power) than OEM rotors. Specially formulated steel compound is highly resistant to warping and wear.Though the use of EBC Rotors will increase stopping power, reduce fad and resist warping and wear better than the BRP rotors. It is not necessary to purchase EBC rotors when replacing the brake pads. EBC Brake Pads will work fine with the stock Spyder rotors.
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I did buy the piston tool for cheap with free shipping.
From where did you buy the tool?
Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
I have a snap ring pliers with 90* tips - would that work?
Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
It should work, but you will have very limited travel with that.
I have no idea what that piston twister looks like, can someone post a photo?
Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.
Here is a picture from Ron's page. As you can see it has the two pins that fit into the piston holes and attaches to a 3/8" ratchet. This allows you to push in as you turn it. Works great!
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You can get one of those at any auto or harbor freight stores!
Maybe, but when I rented a very complete brake retraction tool set from a auto parts store not one of the many sizes in that kit fit the pin spacing of the Spyder piston.
If you get the pads from Ron you might as well get the tool that does fit.
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I have a snap ring pliers with 90* tips - would that work?
Snap ring pliers can work and have been used. People have also ruined these pliers trying to turn the caliper piston in because they are not that strong. It all depends on how stiff your caliper piston is. It helps to put pressure on the piston as you turn it, which can be hard to do with snap ring pliers.
Originally Posted by PW2013STL
Maybe, but when I rented a very complete brake retraction tool set from a auto parts store not one of the many sizes in that kit fit the pin spacing of the Spyder piston.
If you get the pads from Ron you might as well get the tool that does fit.
Originally Posted by EdMat
The ones at Harbor Freight do not have the right pin spacing.
I am not saying there are no tools out there that fit the pin size and spacing for the rear caliper piston. But I was not able to find one readily available. That's why I made this tool. It's not pretty, but it is simple and works really well. Just be VERY SURE you turn the piston CLOCKWISE! Those who have turned them the other way have regretted it.
I'm convinced. When it's time to replace pads in the rear, I'll be buying those and the tool from BajaRon. Thanks all for showing me light.
Ours is a red, black and chrome 2017 F3 Limited. Bought new in 2/2019. The avatar is my first bike back in 1952, a Simplex Servi-Cycle. Photo taken at the Barber Museum.