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    Good Evening, What would be the best way to raise the rear end off of the floor (I have all 3 wheels up on crates about a foot tall) so I could start her up and go thru the gears in the winter time in my garage? I never put her to sleep in the winter. Thanks, Mike
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    For what purpose do you want to start it? If it isn't to go for at least a half hour ride, there is no good reason to start it. Starting it and running it for a few minutes does more harm than good. Think condensation and rust and more bad stuff.
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    The issue you will have is that the computer will sense that the rear wheel is moving, but the front ones are not and throw a code. One of the reasons that you cannot dyno a spyder like you can a two wheel motorcycle.
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    If I do start it I would always run her for a half hour or so with a fan blowing the exhaust out of the garage.
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    Would the code clear and go harmlessly away when I actually took her for a ride or would it cause more problems?
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    Use fuel stabilizer, a battery tender and forget about running it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PW2013STL View Post
    The issue you will have is that the computer will sense that the rear wheel is moving, but the front ones are not and throw a code. One of the reasons that you cannot dyno a spyder like you can a two wheel motorcycle.
    I roll mine when I adjust the belt, it's never thrown a code!
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmh9680 View Post
    If I do start it I would always run her for a half hour or so with a fan blowing the exhaust out of the garage.
    Put the fan in fount of you and sit on her, rev the gas and close your eyes and think of your happy place you want to ride to!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey View Post
    I roll mine when I adjust the belt, it's never thrown a code!
    That will not throw a code, but the OP is talking about running through the gears. That will.
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    You are getting good advice here about not doing it. You should heed that advice.
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    with all the other wise folks here … don't run it even for 1/2 hr. …….. there must be a reason you think it's a good idea ….. Please share that reason with all of us …… Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by PW2013STL View Post
    The issue you will have is that the computer will sense that the rear wheel is moving, but the front ones are not and throw a code. One of the reasons that you cannot dyno a spyder like you can a two wheel motorcycle.
    Why does a Spyder throw a code when dynode and a 2 wheel bike with ABS doesn't. I had and Indian Chieftain with ABS and watched many get dynode without codes coming up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JP58 View Post
    Why does a Spyder throw a code when dynode and a 2 wheel bike with ABS doesn't. I had and Indian Chieftain with ABS and watched many get dynode without codes coming up.
    Because it is not an Indian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP58 View Post
    Why does a Spyder throw a code when dynode and a 2 wheel bike with ABS doesn't. I had and Indian Chieftain with ABS and watched many get dynode without codes coming up.
    The Spyder monitors the wheel speeds for it stability and traction control as well as its ABS. So the rear tire moving at a greater speed than the fronts tells the computer that something is wrong and will try and control it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wmh9680 View Post
    Would the code clear and go harmlessly away when I actually took her for a ride or would it cause more problems?
    Yes it will. Once the system finds all parameters to be correct it will begin to function normally.
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    I ran mine a time or two and never threw a code. Just throw a battery tender on it and wait till spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JP58 View Post
    Why does a Spyder throw a code when dynode and a 2 wheel bike with ABS doesn't. I had and Indian Chieftain with ABS and watched many get dynode without codes coming up.
    Think of all the scenarios where a Spyder will stay upright with wheels turning at different speeds, but a two wheeler won't. The likelihood at some point in time of a Spyder slipping and sliding and staying upright is 100%, whereas for a two wheeler it's almost 0%. Both bikes are designed to cope with what will happen, not for what probably will not happen. The codes come from the VSS, which monitors the Stability Control System, Electronic Brake Distribution System, and the Traction Control System, in addition to the ABS. I'll bet your Indian didn't have the other three systems.

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    Thanks everyone question answered very well. Now get out there and ride if ya can
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    On my 2014 Triumph Trophy the ABS can be turned off if desired (for laying rubber/wheelies) and I imagine most modern computer controlled bikes can also be turned off if needed for a Dyno job, but the Spyder Nanny is a jealous bitch and just won't allow herself to be ignored.
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