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Replacing shocks is it worth it
I have a 2017 F3 Limited. Does it make a noticeable difference on the ride and handling? Looking at shock prices they seems high.
Thanks in advance.
Jim
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How are your stock shocks now? Are you comfortable with the ride?
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Ho do you ride ? My shocks are 10 years old now and I ride solo, 2 up and everything is good. If I rode crazy speed maybe too soft but life is too short to ride crazy all the time.
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If you don't like the way your bikes handling or riding then yes it's worth it! I for one have never liked a step style shock adjustment, which I have on my 2012, and I found out that my rear shock is junk, I will be replaceing them next year! After a while any shock is goig to loose it charge and need to be replaced or rebuilt if possible! I like the rebuilt part you spend your money on a good shock get it set up for your style ride and then when it starts to fail have it rebuilt for cheap money and you get your nice ride back! That's my 2 cents
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Originally Posted by JimH
I have a 2017 F3 Limited. Does it make a noticeable difference on the ride and handling? Looking at shock prices they seems high.
Thanks in advance.
Jim
I assume you want this for performance reasons ????? ….. if so, the handling will get a little better but the ride ie. comfort is going to be much less, depending on how stiff they make the shock/spring. ….. IMHO a sway bar ie. BAJARON's , is the better way to go ….. annnnnnnnnnd at much less cost .….. Mike
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BRP's offer of oem upgraded Fox shocks are a value in my opinion. I put the Fox shocks on my RT and it was noticeably different. The F3 have even better options. They came with the correct preload and I didn't even need to change it.
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Depends...
Will depend on how well you are getting along with what you have. Stock shocks are quite adequate for normal ryding but if you are feeling you need more there are steps as mentioned above you can take first before you go into the shocks. A alignment check to start and then the BajaRon swaybar would be next. After some ryding with those changes see if you need more and how much. I also went the relocation way with BLUEKNIGHT911 relocation adapters (don't know if he has them for the F3. There are several choices on the shocks when and if you get to that point. I went with the Fox and they have met all my expectations.
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Originally Posted by JimH
I have a 2017 F3 Limited. Does it make a noticeable difference on the ride and handling? Looking at shock prices they seems high.
Thanks in advance.
Jim
In my opinion. The Fox Podium shocks are a decent upgrade from the stock Sachs units. Though for OEM, the Sachs are not bad. Shop around, eBay, etc., and you can find them at a good price. There are other options, of course. But hard to beat the Podiums bang for the buck. Especially when combined with other suspension upgrades.
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You're making the right choice...the shocks are the most expensive yet effective Upgrade for the Spyder regardless how you ride and what model you have...you do the shocks
You don't need the other stuff..the sway bar etc....unless you ride super agressive..then add the swaybar...M2 is the best one.
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I upgraded mine because I’m 330lbs, Jim, and my stock tear shock kept bottoming out on my 16 F3-L. I figured I may as well replace all 3 with Wilber’s, and I reckon it handles potholes and corners more surely now. Would I have upgraded if I did not have the bottoming out issue? Probably not, as they are expensive, and the OEM 2 up shocks do the job. Could I survive without BajaRon’s stabiliser bar? Noooooooooooo.
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Originally Posted by BajaRon
In my opinion. The Fox Podium shocks are a decent upgrade from the stock Sachs units. Though for OEM, the Sachs are not bad. Shop around, eBay, etc., and you can find them at a good price. There are other options, of course. But hard to beat the Podiums bang for the buck. Especially when combined with other suspension upgrades.
Wait, Fox aren't the stock shocks on the RT?
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@Wahrsuul, no they are not. The fox shocks brp offers for the RT are not as nice as the F3 but I like them on my RT.
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Originally Posted by 308gunner
You're making the right choice...the shocks are the most expensive yet effective Upgrade for the Spyder regardless how you ride and what model you have...you do the shocks
You don't need the other stuff..the sway bar etc....unless you ride super agressive..then add the swaybar...M2 is the best one.
Agree M2 are by far the best custom shock you can add worth the money. Added a set to my Ryker what a great improvement. Would do it again.
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Ok, one more PO upgrade I didn't know about. Not sure what model, but they're Fox up front. Haven't looked in the rear. I was wondering why people kept talking about the front shocks not being adjustable, mine have the spin/thread style adjusters.
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Originally Posted by Wahrsuul
Ok, one more PO upgrade I didn't know about. Not sure what model, but they're Fox up front. Haven't looked in the rear. I was wondering why people kept talking about the front shocks not being adjustable, mine have the spin/thread style adjusters.
The Fox shocks are/were an upgrade or standard on the higher end models. Without that upgrade, Sach shocks are standard. Sach is a good company and they make a good product, not top of the line mind you, but they have a good reputation in the Euro motorcycle world. However, the Sach units on the Spyders is their bargain bin stuff, so I replaced mine with Elka's and the difference in ride and handling is dramatically better in all regards. The Baja Ron bar is icing on the cake.
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According to the spec sheets, SACHS are standard on all models in 2014.
2014 RT-S Orange - LED headlights/driving lights, LED under mirror turns, LED brake/run lights along trunk and saddlebags, LED third brake light, LED turn bulb replacements, Magic Mirrors, Voltmeter, Oil PSI gauge, heated gear connection, BRP backrest, dash Mount USB plug, Lamonster belt tensioner, Baja Ron sway bar, NBV highway pegs, BRP arm rests M2 suspension.
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I have a 2015 RT LTD. I just upgraded the front shocks to Elka Stage 2. What a difference in cornering!
If you've ever taken a Spyder into a fast freeway interchange curve, eased off the bar a little bit, and felt the push-back of the nose, that's the lack of ample rebound damping. The shock is rebounding with enough force after being slightly unloaded, that it pushes the nose.
I installed the aftermarket swaybar three years ago, had the bike laser aligned right after, and replaced the stock Kendas with Continentals. Every one of these changes helped the ride and handling of the bike. But by and far, the shocks improved cornering the most.
The bike has a much more settled, solid feel in corners now. There is a ninety degree corner a few miles from my house, that more often than not, results in Nanny complaining when I take it. Nanny has not complained once since the Elkas went on.
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The 2010 I test rode was all over the place on the highway. I took some work to keep it in line, but I've no idea what the PO had done to it, any additions, or issues. I was surprised by the handling of my '14 - very stable even in hard cornering. It's got Kendas on the front and a Kumho on the rear. Now I fond out it's got the Fox shocks, and I'm wondering if it has an upgraded sway bar. Guess I'll have to climb under that and look. Couldn't tell when I was under it last time doing the HCM and oil change.
2014 RT-S Orange - LED headlights/driving lights, LED under mirror turns, LED brake/run lights along trunk and saddlebags, LED third brake light, LED turn bulb replacements, Magic Mirrors, Voltmeter, Oil PSI gauge, heated gear connection, BRP backrest, dash Mount USB plug, Lamonster belt tensioner, Baja Ron sway bar, NBV highway pegs, BRP arm rests M2 suspension.
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I also have a 17 F3L. At 35K miles the OEM shocks just were past their prime. I had decided to have them replaced with Elka’s while I was at SITO. The ryde, cornering and handling on my serpentine route through the Ozarks on my way home were very much improved. I am extremely happy with my decision. I should have done it a long time ago.
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