Bike will not start

**P3EWO** · 09-19-2019, 08:36 PM

Took the bike out tonight and rode fine. Was at lake for about 1.5 hrs. Tried to start and engine seemed to want to turn over but all the engine console lights came on and CHECK DPS popped up. Screen went blank then restarted from safety message.

Tried letting it sit and trying again.. No joy. Same issue. The check dps only showed the 1st time. Other times only the entire engine fault lights on bottom came on... Screen went black, start over.

Saw something about moving key away for awhile then trying again... No joy.

150$ later it is towed home.

2018 F3 limited with 700 miles...

My 1st can am... Was in love with it... Now I am no so sure.
Pick of what happens as soon as I push start. Screen goes blank and all lights on bottom light up.

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**Highwayman2013** · 09-19-2019, 09:00 PM

Sounds like loose battery connections or bad battery.

**P3EWO** · 09-19-2019, 09:02 PM

Thanks for the response. I will look into the battery tomorrow. Thanks!!

**glennm** · 09-19-2019, 09:15 PM

Do they not include roadside assistance while under warranty in the US? Maybe a call to BRP Care might yield reimbursement of the towing costs? Just a thought.

**Chupaca** · 09-19-2019, 11:10 PM

From year and mileage I would agree it is in the battery connections or battery was not serviced correctly. Simple test would be a jump start with say a known good battery or the car with the engine off. The DPS is the biggest consumer of electrical power and not strange it would show up from lack of it. Let us know what you find...

**Freddy** · 09-20-2019, 06:47 AM

To be precise, the starter motor is the biggest consumer of electrical power, DPS second. A battery related cause as suggested.

**P3EWO** · 09-20-2019, 08:13 PM

Update: I put the bike on a battery charger for approx 3-4 hrs and the bike started up just fine.

No lose cables.

Not sure what would cause the battery to die, and will this happen again...

Also, I called the dealer and they said it was under warrenty, but they would not pay for it to ne towed to dealer. I called BRP and they said roadside asst would cover the cost to tow to the dealer. Not sure why the dealer would not know this.

**gkamer** · 09-22-2019, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by P3EWO

Update: Also, I called the dealer and they said it was under warrenty, but they would not pay for it to ne towed to dealer. I called BRP and they said roadside asst would cover the cost to tow to the dealer. Not sure why the dealer would not know this.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did know it but where hoping you'd just eat the tow bill without question. It's easy to claim ignorance.

**P3EWO** · 09-24-2019, 04:04 PM

Another update. Took bike to dealer, they looked it over and said nothing is wrong with battery or anything. I told them it didnt make sense a bike with 700 miles would have a dead battery so soon.

He said I need to keep it on a tender when not using. I ride it twice a week. I have had 6 previous bikes, much older, and never had to maintain battery on tender (except for winter storage).

Question: is this normal for a spyder? Having to keep battery on a tender?

Thanks for all the replies.

**canamjhb** · 09-24-2019, 04:36 PM

The battery was probably installed by the dealer when new with no thought of making sure it was fully charged. If you are riding just short trips.....a few miles at a time, you may not be riding enough to replace the needed charge from starting. So, instead of the battery being fully charged, it gets weaker and weaker every time you start the bike. Then you end up having a problem like you did. OTOH, if you usually ride an hour or two at a time, it could just be a bad battery. Even new, it happens..... Jim

**BajaRon** · 09-24-2019, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by P3EWO

Another update. Took bike to dealer, they looked it over and said nothing is wrong with battery or anything. I told them it didnt make sense a bike with 700 miles would have a dead battery so soon.

He said I need to keep it on a tender when not using. I ride it twice a week. I have had 6 previous bikes, much older, and never had to maintain battery on tender (except for winter storage).

Question: is this normal for a spyder? Having to keep battery on a tender?

Thanks for all the replies.

Question: is this normal for a spyder? Having to keep battery on a tender?

Answer; NO!

Something is up. Your Spyder, as you suspect, should be just fine sitting for awhile and still start up right away. There are several possibilities. Poor dealer prep sending you out with a less than fully charged battery. Poor dealer prep not getting good, tight battery connections. Having something left on draining the battery. Poor or weak charging (which the dealer should have checked). Or, simply a bad battery, which can happen.

Hopefully, you are out of the woods. If the battery were not fully charged and you rode short distances, low RPM, maybe on winding roads. The charging system would not have enough time to bring the battery up to full, the DPS would draw a lot as well as the relatively frequent starting. It might have produced the perfect storm for your 'No-Start' event.

**P3EWO** · 09-24-2019, 05:28 PM

Thanks for the replies. I never realized how much the DPS draws. I do recall taking some hard corners recently.

Thanks again

**stmike 1800** · 09-25-2019, 05:29 AM

This is the reason i carry a small booster all the time .I move it to the sled ( no pull start) when winter rolls around.

**ChicagoSpyder** · 09-25-2019, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by P3EWO

Another update. Took bike to dealer, they looked it over and said nothing is wrong with battery or anything. I told them it didnt make sense a bike with 700 miles would have a dead battery so soon.

He said I need to keep it on a tender when not using. I ride it twice a week. I have had 6 previous bikes, much older, and never had to maintain battery on tender (except for winter storage).

Question: is this normal for a spyder? Having to keep battery on a tender?

Thanks for all the replies.

You should not have to keep your battery on the Tender with your schedule, in fact if you ride your Spyder only once every other month you should be good to go without the Tender, my guess is that the battery was either never fully charged and the setup guy was cranking the tunes while setting up your machine and others. Many times when a battery gets crushed it will not fully recover, even if it's new.

**ChicagoSpyder** · 09-25-2019, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by stmike 1800

This is the reason i carry a small booster all the time .I move it to the sled (no pull start) when winter rolls around.

Another BuRP cheap move, nothing like being in the bush at -40 and having a dead battery and no pull string.

**stmike 1800** · 10-03-2019, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by ChicagoSpyder

Another BuRP cheap move, nothing like being in the bush at -40 and having a dead battery and no pull string.

If your rope start fails do you have an electric start as back up . I have heard of more rope start failures than E start .I guess it would be nice to have both.

**Spyder_Cowgirl** · 10-03-2019, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by P3EWO

Another update. Took bike to dealer, they looked it over and said nothing is wrong with battery or anything. I told them it didnt make sense a bike with 700 miles would have a dead battery so soon.

Have your dealer, or you do it yourself, pull a recall report on your VIN. I suggest this because delivery of my 2018 F3 Ltd was delayed a couple of days because of a known problem with limited number of machines that had bad alternators that had ruined the battery (not sure of all the details). Bottom line, I got a new battery and new alternator before the machine was delivered and I was allowed to take it home -- parts were overnighted by BRP, so there was very little delay.

All the best ….. Ann

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