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    Default Thinking about spare fuel container location

    OK, read all I could find in past posts but would like to hear (read) current inputs about a possible location for a 1 gallon heavy duty plastic gas can.
    If you have a small trailer (OK, like the one I posted pics on recently) and put a 1 gallon container inside it (say, packed in soft foam wrapping), how much "shaking and (internal) splashing" would you expect on most rides and roads?
    Not having one before, and not having a "Go-PRO" to film it I'm trying to get a feel for how much shaking do you actually get routinely inside these little trailers that are attached to the swing arm hitch and have no road shock suppression except for their springs.
    In most minds is this enough to label the carrying of this container and gas this way DANGEROUS and DON"T DO?
    Even in our short time (going on 5 years) with the Spyder, we have been on trips where, without warning anywhere, it was over 100 miles more without any services or gas. For most cars/trucks that's obviously not a concern, but YES we were anxious all the way.
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    My only question is WHY? In this day and age and with cell phones, tablet/mini-laptops and some adherence to the 6Ps, unless you're in the wilds of Alaska or Canada the 1330 ACE engine Spyders have the range to avoid getting yourself in a crack fuel-wise. While I don't now and probably won't ever have a trailer, I still don't want gas anywhere but in my Spyder fuel tank.
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    If you think about it, we have gallons of gas right between our legs. Enough said. cueman

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    I have carried gas in different containers in the trailer that i pull behind my Spyder, generally without incident, BUT, i did have a sealed container top come off the gas can on my way back from Deadwood South Dakota and did not realize it until i pulled in my driveway and opened the trailer, everything was lightly soaked in gasoline, why did it not ignite??? I will never do that again.

    At one point i used a heavy duty container that sat on the trailer tongue, i drilled a very tiny hole in the cap to prevent any fumes from expanding, but not sure i would do that again unless extremely necessary.

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    I believe you have a trailer. I mounted this to the side of the tongue of the trailer. I also ran out of gas in eastern Nevada one year, gas stations, if not entire towns were closed.

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    We drove in AK for almost 20 years. When riding in the outback, fill when you see it at every opportunity in unfamiliar territory. Unless you are driving the haul roads way up North, which I did not recommend, we never ran out of gas on the road. With the 200 mile plus range on the 1330's...I do not consider it a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teninospyder View Post
    OK, read all I could find in past posts but would like to hear (read) current inputs about a possible location for a 1 gallon heavy duty plastic gas can.
    If you have a small trailer (OK, like the one I posted pics on recently) and put a 1 gallon container inside it (say, packed in soft foam wrapping), how much "shaking and (internal) splashing" would you expect on most rides and roads?
    Not having one before, and not having a "Go-PRO" to film it I'm trying to get a feel for how much shaking do you actually get routinely inside these little trailers that are attached to the swing arm hitch and have no road shock suppression except for their springs.
    In most minds is this enough to label the carrying of this container and gas this way DANGEROUS and DON"T DO?
    Even in our short time (going on 5 years) with the Spyder, we have been on trips where, without warning anywhere, it was over 100 miles more without any services or gas. For most cars/trucks that's obviously not a concern, but YES we were anxious all the way.
    Ray, there's too much bouncing I think in that trailer, which is why I tried softening the ride with the bigger tires. I've always carried the 1 gallon spare can in the left saddlebag
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    Quote Originally Posted by bcer960 View Post
    I believe you have a trailer. I mounted this to the side of the tongue of the trailer. I also ran out of gas in eastern Nevada one year, gas stations, if not entire towns were closed.

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    I'd feel safe carrying the spare gas can on the trailer tongue, instead of a cooler. Less bouncing plus any leaks or spills are safely outside the trailer.
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    Every time we stop I DO open the air valve just to release the pressure. But I used this last year on a 9000kms trip, worked great. Well, actually, I didn't NEED to use it on the trip, but was very glad it was there..

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    I'm frugal ( as opposed to cheap ) … I have no need for that much gas as a back-up …. however I do carry 750ml of gas in a former Tequila bottle …. it gives me 12-15 miles to find gas. …. Liquor bottles don't leak, they are designed to hold alcohol without SEAL failure … I have considered up-grading to the 1.75 lit. size …. Burnett's Gin makes a dark green " Oval container ".... I torture tested the Tequila bottle and it never leaked nor even gave of any fumes ….. I only used it once for me ( testing the empty tank thing ) , but I have provided gas for others stranded without gas ….. Mike

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    I don’t carry gas and I frequently travel roads where it is 150 miles between stations. Rode to AK and didn’t carry gas. I check my route be leaving so I know where I will be able to find gas, sometimes you have to fill up early so you can make it to the next station. A little planning and you will be fine and your stuff won’t stink of gasoline.

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    Never miss the chance to pee or get gas....

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    To carry spare gas or not is a personal choice. Ray chooses to, as do I and many others.

    Let's hear from those who do carry spare gas with them, for whatever reason. He is asking for solutions, not skepticism.
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    When I have carried spare gas it has been on the top rack of the Bushtec trailer. I wasn't sure if there would be gas at Denio Junction on hwy 140 in Oregon. Didn't need it so I left the can at a station for somebody else.

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    Default Pics of 1 gal gas can on trailer tongue

    Finally decided to stop overthinking the problem and (using what I could find in my workshop at home) just do what some others had done.
    Nothing unusual, but for anyone interested, today I posted in "albums" 5 pics taken yesterday, of my solution for holding a 1 gal gas can on the tongue of our HF trailer.
    There is also a 1/4" layer of vibration dampening material (as used by some to dampen vibration and shaking of washers/dryers/etc) between the aluminum plate and the tongue.
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    Thank you for the update.

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    Ah, no. Please don't carry any extra gas. If you were to be rear ended or were to rear end someone else, that container of gas would (could rupture) and splash forward and ignite. Need I say more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dogs View Post
    Ah, no. Please don't carry any extra gas. If you were to be rear ended or were to rear end someone else, that container of gas would (could rupture) and splash forward and ignite. Need I say more?
    Question have you added a safety " BLADDER " in your gas tank ????? ……….. if not that can explode in a collision also ….. just a thought …..good luck ….. Mike

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    For safety concerns this would cost a lot more initially but if the big 'IF' ever happened the chance of fire would diminish drastically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dogs View Post
    Ah, no. Please don't carry any extra gas. If you were to be rear ended or were to rear end someone else, that container of gas would (could rupture) and splash forward and ignite. Need I say more?
    Another risk equation...for those who may want that extra measure of safety, I recommend these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeriatric View Post
    For safety concerns this would cost a lot more initially but if the big 'IF' ever happened the chance of fire would diminish drastically.

    https://www.msrgear.com/msr-fuel-bottles

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    I've used those, but they're a bugger to fill at a station pump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UtahPete View Post
    I've used those, but they're a bugger to fill at a station pump.
    Same here. So, I wait until I can use an appropriate container(some stations have loaners) for use at the pump, then use the funnel I cary for topping off oil, to fill the bottles. A bit of a pain but, safety is first on my mind.


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    A nice lady on here a wile back advised to plan or preplan your trip and fuel stops so you don't have to carry extra gas. Good advise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by teninospyder View Post
    Finally decided to stop overthinking the problem and (using what I could find in my workshop at home) just do what some others had done.
    Nothing unusual, but for anyone interested, today I posted in "albums" 5 pics taken yesterday, of my solution for holding a 1 gal gas can on the tongue of our HF trailer.
    There is also a 1/4" layer of vibration dampening material (as used by some to dampen vibration and shaking of washers/dryers/etc) between the aluminum plate and the tongue.
    Just FYI.
    Don't trust those bungee cords, especially the round ones. For absolute hold down security I suggest you use solid rope or chain tightened with turnbuckles. As others have said, a safety can made specifically for carrying fuel would be best.

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