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    Default Where did the hearing protection thread go?

    Earlier today I responded to a thread that appeared to have been started by someone simply trying to sell custom hearing protection. I'm thinking it may have been deleted as a spam. Sadly, though, there were some good and bad points being discussed about hearing protection that seemed as though it might be beneficial information. Is there any way to recover those parts of the conversation and leave out the unauthorized advertising?

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    I was wondering the same thing myself, it was their first post and the first reply they got was pretty nasty. I would have deleted it and never come back to spyderlovers again. I couldn’t decide if he was selling them, he doesn’t live in the same area as the company was located so I took it as an honest product endorsement
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    Anyway ... I wear the foam ear plugs when I ride. Might sound strange, but, when I do, I can hear my radio better. The plugs seem to cut out the wind noise and, though I may lose some of the high frequencies, the radio is clearer with the plugs. I don't push them in quite far enough to touch in the middle (GRIN), but, just far enough to cut the wind noise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cruisinTX View Post
    Earlier today I responded to a thread that appeared to have been started by someone simply trying to sell custom hearing protection. I'm thinking it may have been deleted as a spam. Sadly, though, there were some good and bad points being discussed about hearing protection that seemed as though it might be beneficial information. Is there any way to recover those parts of the conversation and leave out the unauthorized advertising?
    Most all hearing centers provide the same service and selection. Search "custom ear plugs near me"


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    I was wondering the same thing myself, it was their first post and the first reply they got was pretty nasty. I would have deleted it and never come back to spyderlovers again. I couldn’t decide if he was selling them, he doesn’t live in the same area as the company was located so I took it as an honest product endorsement
    Not that what I think matters. I spent at least an hour reading everything on their site. Right down to employee profiles. Pretty certain it was a self promoting post. Again, jmo


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeriatric View Post
    Not that what I think matters. I spent at least an hour reading everything on their site. Right down to employee profiles. Pretty certain it was a self promoting post. Again, jmo
    You could very well be right, I did think it odd that someone would make their first post about ear plugs. But still no reason fir some to be rude.
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    I don’t put my hearing aids and still hear radio fine, don’t turn volume up until on the road.

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    I buy the bulk box of foam plugs from Amazon.
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    We considered the post to be "undercover" advertising. It was deleted by me after discussion with others. There is a lot of that going on these days. Same with restaurant reviews....they get shills or employees to give good ratings.

    The old saying...it must be true...its on the internet.

    The vendors featured on SL pay a fee to have their products featured. The occasional attempt to get "free" advertising by some is dealt with quickly.

    A big clue was that it was the OP's first post. Who comes on the site with a first post to tout a favorite brand of ear plugs?????

    Not our job to vette a potential advertiser when they come on with a first post. They should contact Admin first to be vetted if they want to show or talk about their product.
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    I regret that the original post was deleted ONLY because of the subject and what the loss of hearing does -- it can wreck your life. CruisnTX, the last paragraph of your last post was in the V-ring. In my prior incarnation one wasn't a real artillerist unless one was hard of hearing. What a stupid idea! I wear these to protect what little I have left,https://www.thefitlifestore.com/coll...sleeping-black.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBros View Post
    I regret that the original post was deleted ONLY because of the subject and what the loss of hearing does -- it can wreck your life. CruisnTX, the last paragraph of your last post was in the V-ring. In my prior incarnation one wasn't a real artillerist unless one was hard of hearing. What a stupid idea! I wear these to protect what little I have left,https://www.thefitlifestore.com/coll...sleeping-black.
    ummmmm, not sure what the "V-ring" is; but hoping that it's a good thing.

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    The V-ring is a smaller circle in the center of a target bulls-eye. Good job!
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    I was born with an average 40% hearing loss. However it wasn't an even loss but dips in the middle so low tones are only 20%, high 30% but middle 60%. This meant I never heard birdsong until I started working and was able to purchase my first decent pair of hearing aids. What's happened now is that I've started to have hearing loss in the high area as well down to a similar level to the middle. This loss of high level is a more normal age related pattern (but I'm so young;-))

    The bit that does the hearing in your ear is shaped like a snail shell. Inside this shell are loads of hairs attached to nerves that transmit the sound to your brain. high pitched sounds are picked up at the start of the snail shell, while lower pitched sounds pass this and are picked up further in. If you have less working hairs at a certain point inside that snail shell then your hearing will be worse at that tone - so I was born with a 'bald spot' around the mid tone level.

    Because all sound passes the the high tone area to reach the lower areas these hairs tend to fail first. The way I had it described to me is that its like a hall carpet always wears at the front door. So most people loose the high end with age to some degree.

    Constant noise means all the hairs up to the point where that tone ends in the snail shell are having to work constantly and this can damage/break them. That's why constant lower pitched tones can actually do more damage than higher pitched ones as all the hairs to that point are under pressure. The high tones may be affected first just because of the 'hall carpet' effect but the damage will be spread further.

    This is different type of hearing loss to that experienced by sudden explosions etc.

    Obviously I do have the advantage in that just taking out my hearing aids gives me instant sound reduction. However I also am very careful about the selection of my crash helmets and currently have an Shoei Gt-Air because of its superior noise reduction. On long trips or when using GPS I use Bose QuietControl 30 noise cancelling earbuds - very expensive indeed but as I also do a lot of flying they are invaluable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARtraveler View Post
    We considered the post to be "undercover" advertising. It was deleted by me after discussion with others. There is a lot of that going on these days. Same with restaurant reviews....they get shills or employees to give good ratings.

    The old saying...it must be true...its on the internet.


    The vendors featured on SL pay a fee to have their products featured. The occasional attempt to get "free" advertising by some is dealt with quickly.

    A big clue was that it was the OP's first post. Who comes on the site with a first post to tout a favorite brand of ear plugs?????

    Not our job to vette a potential advertiser when they come on with a first post. They should contact Admin first to be vetted if they want to show or talk about their product.
    Thx for the filtering that very well could have grown to something unpleasant. So By chance will there be a restaurant tread
    Coming out? would be nicer than
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    So there's been a lot of talk about off topic posts to threads, so here's one for ya!

    Did you know that men lose their hearing first in the tones that women communicate in? Actual stuff they taught in the industry I was in. 3000-5000 hz range of hearing goes first. So protect em up guys. My tinnitus is so loud other folks can hear it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bfromla View Post
    Thx for the filtering that very well could have grown to something unpleasant. So By chance will there be a restaurant tread
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    Believe it or not...there was a restaurant thread. People were asked to mention their favorite restaurant that they have encountered. One person suggested the Double Musky in Girdwood AK, and I even agreed with that one.

    And now...back to the original program.

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    I'm a new rider and posted to the other thread to ask what people were using. This morning I dropped in my standard shop foamies and talk about a huge difference. I thought the ride was pretty quiet with my Arai Quantum X, but the ear plugs sure did make the ride more comfortable!

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    I too like the foam roll up. We used them extensively in the steel mill I worked in. I find that for me they reduce the helmet roar of a modular helmet to an acceptable level. They also make it so I can hear the radio and communications easier.

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    In the event some missed it in the other thread, here is a link to an online search using the phrase: "hearing loss due to wind noise on motorcycles" in the search bar. As you can see, a lot of research has been done on the subject. Speaking from the experience of having ridden motorcycles (always with a helmet) since 1968 and no hearing protection for the 1st ~120K miles, protecting your hearing should be a top priority for everyone. Once it's gone; it's gone forever and the simple task of using ear plugs can greatly delay that.


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