If they can do it for Trasformers they could do it for us

**Lamonster** · 07-09-2009, 10:49 AM

Man I wish they would put a fun switch on our Spyder.

http://spyder.brp.com/en-US/Share/Co...9-1cac88839609

**Donzo** · 07-09-2009, 11:02 AM

It would be fun to be able to do a slide out of a parking lot or the occasional dounut (prob. daily?!)
But, that VSS has saved my

many times! When I rode my motorcycles in the mountains I would often get that - Oh-Oh sinking feeling when I went into a turn to fast and was super leaning - With the Spyder and the VSS, if you fly into a turn to fast that wonderful, hot little nanny is right there to keep you a "rocket on rails" not a scooter in the woods

But, it would be fun to be able to have the front wheels turned and hit it!

**dryheat** · 07-09-2009, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Lamonster

Man I wish they would put a fun switch on our Spyder.

http://spyder.brp.com/en-US/Share/Co...9-1cac88839609

++++11111

I'm sure some enterprising software/wrench geek will figure it out... but until then...

**Firefly** · 07-09-2009, 11:06 AM

Stunts? They did stunts in the movie?

**WizardMaster** · 07-09-2009, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Lamonster

Man I wish they would put a fun switch on our Spyder.

http://spyder.brp.com/en-US/Share/Co...9-1cac88839609

I would love to have that switch. Dont think that I would ever turn the VSS on! BUT, its because of maniacs like me that the has a VSS.

**BajaRon** · 07-09-2009, 11:47 AM

As good as we all think we are...I'm afraid we would start seeing more Spyders stuck in trees, guard rails, etc.

On the other hand, I'd like to give it a try!

**DynamoBT** · 07-09-2009, 11:50 AM

I think this is the thing that most people I talk to about the Spyder are bothered by the most. They want to burn rubber or push it until they lift a wheel. They are disappointed when I tell them that the nanny will kick in and prevent them from doing those things.

A switch would be good. Because then, those like me who want the VSS on could have it their way, and those that don't want the VSS on could have their cake too. The VSS is the main reason I looked at the Spyder and didn't bother with either a sidecar rig or a traditional trike conversion.

Too bad we can't all be happy all the time.

**Derek Paisley** · 07-09-2009, 11:58 AM

There was one stunt that I recall. It was when it was ridden while offloading a military cargo plane. lol..

**SPYMAN** · 07-09-2009, 12:00 PM

[quote=WizardMaster;117815]I would love to have that switch. Dont think that I would ever turn the VSS on! BUT, ]its because of maniacs like me that the has a VSS.[/quote

It sounds like you are talking about me!!!!!!!

I'm pretty sure ther are a few of us that are a little on the CRAZY SIDE!!!

SPYMAN

**SPYMAN** · 07-09-2009, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by BajaRon

As good as we all think we are...I'm afraid we would start seeing more Spyders stuck in trees, guard rails, etc.

On the other hand, I'd like to give it a try!

My self being one that would have been in trouble a few times with out the

telling me THATS ENUFF

!!!!!!!

SPYMAN

**Lamonster** · 07-09-2009, 12:04 PM

I'm sure BRP see's this as a "sue me" switch but if you had a disclaimer that it was only for approved "race track" or "stunt" use and if there was a issue and the Spyder was found to be in the "stunt" mode at the time of the accident BRP could not be held responsible. Maybe even make it so it could only be enabled through the BUDS and when it was you signed a waver to release BRP and the dealership of any responsibility. At that time if there was a accident and the "stunt" switch was turned off the product liability would be the same as a standard Spyder.

I'm sure this will never happen in this sue happy world but it's fun to dream about it.

**Questions** · 07-09-2009, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Lamonster

I'm sure BRP see's this as a "sue me" switch but if you had a disclaimer that it was only for approved "race track" or "stunt" use and if there was a issue and the Spyder was found to be in the "stunt" mode at the time of the accident BRP could not be held responsible. Maybe even make it so it could only be enabled through the BUDS and when it was you signed a waver to release BRP and the dealership of any responsibility. At that time if there was a accident and the "stunt" switch was turned off the product liability would be the same as a standard Spyder.

I'm sure this will never happen in this sue happy world but it's fun to dream about it.

Great Post that would be a great idea so that BRP could escape responsibility by viewing any incident that happened did so in stunt or race mode. I am sure somebody can come up with a computer bypass as a spyder doughnut would be great from time to time.

**Bersquack** · 07-09-2009, 12:35 PM

There is way to much liability with a switch like that. I would like it, but it's not going to happen.

Even if they have us sign waivers, there could be some many risks involved.

**BajaRon** · 07-09-2009, 01:32 PM

I think this would have to be a switch that we would have to devise. It would be very foolish for BRP to give us any assistance with such a switch.

**Lamonster** · 07-09-2009, 02:32 PM

I'll sign whatever those stuntmen signed.

**WizardMaster** · 07-09-2009, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by Lamonster

I'll sign whatever those stuntmen signed.

ME TOO, ME TOO!!!!!!!

**Reinyn** · 07-09-2009, 02:39 PM

I don't think having a VSS off switch would be that controversial.

My last three cars all have had a off switch to disable stability control. I learned my lesson with the RX-8 and the rain, it should be left on

**Bersquack** · 07-09-2009, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Lamonster

I'll sign whatever those stuntmen signed.

We know one, we could ask him!!!

Maybe not!

**bjt** · 07-09-2009, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Lamonster

Man I wish they would put a fun switch on our Spyder.

http://spyder.brp.com/en-US/Share/Co...9-1cac88839609

Originally Posted by Firefly

Stunts? They did stunts in the movie?

I missed the stunts also. Maybe when they backed down the ramp of a moving truck and hit the pavement and then sped off would have upset the VSS?

I have a feeling that a lot of Spyder footage was left on the cutting room floor.

Originally Posted by Lamonster

I'm sure BRP see's this as a "sue me" switch but if you had a disclaimer that it was only for approved "race track" or "stunt" use and if there was a issue and the Spyder was found to be in the "stunt" mode at the time of the accident BRP could not be held responsible. Maybe even make it so it could only be enabled through the BUDS and when it was you signed a waver to release BRP and the dealership of any responsibility. At that time if there was a accident and the "stunt" switch was turned off the product liability would be the same as a standard Spyder.

I'm sure this will never happen in this sue happy world but it's fun to dream about it.

Legal papers, contracts and whatnot still don't hold water for an ambitious attorney, a self serving judge or a sympathetic jury. A 12 inch stack of signed waivers, disclaimers and other legalese can be wiped away in an instant by any two of the three mentioned groups.

**gazey** · 07-10-2009, 05:19 AM

There has been a few red faced moments for me when I simply try and take off from the side of the road and the motor starts to "sputter and fart" thanks to good old "Nanny". It would be soooo nice to be able to take off with just a little wheel spin and a small fish tail. I think they have gone overboard with the sensitivity. Fast corners and getting wheels off the ground is one thing, but a little fishy as you leave the car park.
Now that just plane fun

**Lamonster** · 07-10-2009, 05:25 AM

**Firefly** · 07-10-2009, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by gazey

There has been a few red faced moments for me when I simply try and take off from the side of the road and the motor starts to "sputter and fart" thanks to good old "Nanny". It would be soooo nice to be able to take off with just a little wheel spin and a small fish tail. I think they have gone overboard with the sensitivity. Fast corners and getting wheels off the ground is one thing, but a little fishy as you leave the car park.
Now that just plane fun

I would love to ride the one that Ken @ Evoluzione has--- all the VSS stuff is disabled.

Does anyone know if the VSS still works when you have the clutch pulled in?

**jedd** · 07-10-2009, 02:09 PM

Just think of the fun to sit and spin donuts, till so dizzy you need to

ahh what a dream. I remember a after market co. toying with a dyno switch?

Who was that??

Legal dept. must have got in their way... Maybe someday.....

**BigRock** · 07-10-2009, 02:25 PM

I took a fast turn the other day one of the wheels did come off the ground! The Spyder can't control me!

**bjt** · 07-10-2009, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by BigRock

I took a fast turn the other day one of the wheels did come off the ground! The Spyder can't control me!

I've had a front wheel lift too, without the VSS kicking in (the bjt VSS kicked in though

). I've also had the VSS kick in when I wasn't even close to lifting a wheel.

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