Did You Or Will You Switch To FULL Synthetic Oil Upon 1st Oil Change?

[Aufgeblassen47]

Just curious! I certainly will. In addition, I think I will be able to safely increase change interval to 9,000 miles doing thusly. :mrgreen:

[djdilliodon]

Definitely going synthetic, just waiting to hit 3k miles and I’m doing it. Going to use amsoil

[KC61]

I don't know why you wouldn't switch to full synthetic after a reasonable break in period, I certainly will.

[r1100rider]

I don't know why you wouldn't switch to full synthetic after a reasonable break in period, I certainly will.

this seams like the best plan my experience has been that syn oil is almost to good and won't let enough wear for break in of rings ,the ryker not sharing oil with a tranny and wet clutch will be easier on oil but of course the length of miles per start is what really determines the break down of oil , not for a real question that I was ask when I was talking up amsoil. Show me a picture of an amsoil refinery I don't know weather they do or don't but the point is that many oils are just a label

[Highwayman2013]

this seams like the best plan my experience has been that syn oil is almost to good and won't let enough wear for break in of rings ,the ryker not sharing oil with a tranny and wet clutch will be easier on oil but of course the length of miles per start is what really determines the break down of oil , not for a real question that I was ask when I was talking up amsoil. Show me a picture of an amsoil refinery I don't know weather they do or don't but the point is that many oils are just a label

I don't know about just a label. I can tell you from real world riding and oil analysis that the BRP blend oil loses viscosity pretty fast in the 998. Mobil 1 10W40 was at 8,600 when I had it analyzed and showed loss of viscosity. The results with Amsoil at 9,666 miles showed no loss of viscosity and a recommendation to try running the oil to 12,000 miles on the next change. To be honest I was quite surprised the Amsoil did much better than the Mobil 1. 2016 F3L using Blackstone labs. Maybe I'll try the Spectro next.

[BajaRon]

this seams like the best plan my experience has been that syn oil is almost to good and won't let enough wear for break in of rings ,the ryker not sharing oil with a tranny and wet clutch will be easier on oil but of course the length of miles per start is what really determines the break down of oil , not for a real question that I was ask when I was talking up amsoil. Show me a picture of an amsoil refinery I don't know weather they do or don't but the point is that many oils are just a label

You are right. There is no Amsoil refinery. Nor is there a Ford, Chevy Toyota or BRP refinery. Refineries are like steel mills. They produce the basic products that customers ask for. From cheap steel to very high quality, expensive products. Sometimes all you need is cheap steel to get the job done. The problem comes when you use cheap steel when a higher quality is needed.

Refineries make the base product. Individual suppliers like Castrol, Penzoil, Amsoil, etc., using the various quality and grades of the base oil they choose, make alterations to get the final product. Just like Chevy may take a plate of steel and make a fender out of it. And another company will take that same plate of steel and make something completely different with it.

[old Timer]

Don't even understand the question, probably comes with Synthetic from the factory. If not, you can switch to Synthetic any time you want, I always do it at my first oil change at between 50 and 100 miles and at least one quick full throttle blast to the 80-90 MPH range.

[Aufgeblassen47]

Don't even understand the question, probably comes with Synthetic from the factory. If not, you can switch to Synthetic any time you want, I always do it at my first oil change at between 50 and 100 miles and at least one quick full throttle blast to the 80-90 MPH range.

Only semi-synthetic from factory.

[KC61]

And here we go, the old synthetic vs dino argument.

[Aufgeblassen47]

And here we go, the old synthetic vs dino argument.

For cry eye! It was just a question! Sounds like you must be skeptical about the benefits of synthetic.

[LeftCoast]

For cry eye! It was just a question! Sounds like you must be skeptical about the benefits of synthetic.

That IS NOT what he said. He merely referenced a topic here that’s been debated ad nauseum.

[LeftCoast]

Ok throttle back folks. This is one of those everyone has an opinion topics. If you have one go ahead but leave comments and thoughts about someone else’s opinion out of it please.

Here’s my opinion, I had synthetic in when I took it in for a change that the prior owner had put in. I forgot to tell the shop to put in Amsoil again so the BRP recommendation went in this time. I think the bike clunks more on downshifts now than before. This winter Amsoil will go back in.

[JayBros]

Pg 91, Maintenance Schedule, of the operator's guide says change the engine oil and oil filter once a year or every 6,000 miles, whichever comes first. Is there a change that stretches it to 9,000 miles?

[Aufgeblassen47]

Pg 91, Maintenance Schedule, of the operator's guide says change the engine oil and oil filter once a year or every 6,000 miles, whichever comes first. Is there a change that stretches it to 9,000 miles?

No rocket science - better oil means better mileage.

[Bike-O-Din]

I would go with the 6000 miles. You may be able to stretch it, but.... Oil is cheap, engines are expensive.

[ARtraveler]

The 1330 manual says 9000 or once a year. May be different for a Ryker...which I don't have a manual for.

[Highwayman2013]

It shouldn't be too hard on oil. The engine doesn't share with the transmission. I would still have the oil analyzed to see how it's holding up at the factory interval. Amsoil is a quality oil that holds up well.

[Mikey]

Oil and tires. Oil and tires!!! Better than the best mouse trap made!

[Aufgeblassen47]

Oil and tires. Oil and tires!!! Better than the best mouse trap made!

My philosophy: tires are like wine & women - the cheaper the better!

I've always had the best of luck with the dirt cheapest tires I can find. I once bought a used Ford Escort that had $60 Yokohama tires on it. I experienced tread separation in 3 of the 4 tires! There were "tire wars" going on at the time, and I replaced them with $5 tires (the mounting & balancing cost more than the tires). Didn't have a bit of problems with them!

[KC61]

Yep, synthetic's are great but you also need an extended interval filter to match the oil. So there's that. And I'm not just making this stuff up, came direct from a Mobil 1 Tech.

[Aufgeblassen47]

Yep, synthetic's are great but you also need an extended interval filter to match the oil. So there's that. And I'm not just making this stuff up, came direct from a Mobil 1 Tech.

When I took my oil to 130,000 miles with synthetic, when normal (dino oil) interval was 20,000 miles with my Volvo big rig truck, I changed the three oil filters every 30,000 miles and it took a gallon of top off oil to replace oil that was in the filters.

If you only double your interval, chances are your filter will be fine (unless you do mostly stop & go city driving and/or lots of short trips).

Keep in mind that Mobil sells a "once a year" oil change oil. No mention of extra filter change or special filter.

[KC61]

Keep in mind that Mobil sells a "once a year" oil change oil. No mention of extra filter change or special filter.

You would be wrong about that. There is an Extended Interval Filter to match their 20k mile oil. Check your facts

Mobil 1 Annual Protection ultimate full synthetic motor oils feature advanced lubricant technology that provides proven protection for 20,000 miles or one full year between oil changes, whichever comes first – guaranteed.†

We recommend using a Mobil 1™ Extended Performance oil filters along with the Mobil 1 Annual Protection synthetic oils. Though not required, these filters meet the requirements of the Mobil 1 Annual Protection limited warranty and are perfect companion products for longer-lasting protection.

https://mobiloil.com/en/oil-filters/...ce-oil-filters

[mrNewt]

Of course they would recommend their filters... .
Those filters are not as special as they like to make them... but each to its own.

Filters are like oils... everyone has their own religious beliefs .

[BajaRon]

Of course they would recommend their filters... .
Those filters are not as special as they like to make them... but each to its own.

Filters are like oils... everyone has their own religious beliefs .

Actually, there is a lot of good information out there based on actual testing. Which products you choose does not have to be based on faith, myth, or intuition.

[Aufgeblassen47]

Of course they would recommend their filters... .
Those filters are not as special as they like to make them... but each to its own.

Filters are like oils... everyone has their own religious beliefs .

Indeed. I've NEVER had low oil pressure due to a clogging filter in all the years I've run my filters to twice the recommended interval. My '98 Jetta TDI diesel went to 20,000 mile intervals instead of recommended 10,000, and that was even before ultra low sulfur diesel fuel.

Fuels are so clean these days, and emissions are so low, that very few contaminants get in the oil.