Results 1 to 12 of 12

Thread: Vampire Drain?

  1. #1
    Active Member Raknid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Central NJ
    Posts
    307
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default Vampire Drain?

    My wife's 2012 RT spends a majority of it's time on the Battery Tender as she rides it relatively infrequently. We had it out about 10 days ago and went to go run errands yesterday and the battery was dead. I had left it off the Tender as it summer and likely to take for the occasional while I was on vacation. The battery was replaced April 2017.

    I did experience a similar issue when new and the dealer replaced the battery and I have usually kept on the Tender since if sitting in the garage more than a few days. Question is, has anyone else experience similar heavy vampire drain? I am taking to the dealer to check out the battery and electrical system to find a cause. It would seem extreme for a vampire drain.
    2012 RT-SE5

  2. #2
    Very Active Member BoilerAnimal's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2016
    Location
    Central Illinois
    Posts
    847
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    We ride very frequently and if we’re not on the Spyder, the Battery Tender is.
    On the road again...........and forever young!

    2013 RT-S SE 5



    Yesterday is a cancelled check.
    Tomorrow is a promissory note.
    Today is cash.......spend it wisely.

  3. #3
    Very Active Member Snowbelt Spyder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    Chardon, OH
    Posts
    647
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Remember that the charging system on the 998 engine is pretty feeble. You've got lights, power steering, etc, all drawing energy from the battery. There's a good probability that the errands you ran didn't charge the battery fully, and may in fact, have left it at a lower charge than where it was when you started. Then it sat for 10 days. Before I spent money at the dealer, I would suggest a full battery charge using a charger, not just a maintainer, and see how the battery responds. Is there a parasitic drain on the system? Yes, of course. It keeps the clock running, holds your preferences, etc.

    Ask yourself if somewhere along the line if you had new keys programmed. The system may have accidentally been left in programming mode. The manual specifically states that the battery will discharge in 1 - 2 weeks if that happens. The manual is incorrect when it says that the engine would shutdown in 2 minutes if that were the case. Finless Bob has proven that to be incorrect.

    Another thing you can inspect yourself is the electrical connection for the optional front accessory plug. It's inside a rubber boot up near the top of the left front shock mount. The problem is that the rubber boot is open to the environment. Since that plug is live at all times, and it can get crud in there, that can also cause an electrical drain.

    That’s pretty much the download. There's no substitute for riding it. Good luck.


    Doug

    2012 Spyder RT LTD Lava Bronze, RT 622

    Original Owner

    Seal Pups, F4 Customs SWCV, Corbin, JT's Air Filter, Cat Bypass, Power Commander V, NBV, SpyderFlap, Rivco Dual Flag Holder, Lidlox, Baja Ron Sway Bar, links, plugs and wires, Adjustable Chrome Side Vents, Spyderpops Block Off Plate and Belt Guard, Bump Skid, Canisterectomy, Akrapovic, TricLed HL/FL, Spyder Cuff with X-Grip, S-Drive, Rock Armour, P238, Laser Alignment by Gray Ghost, Windshield Arm by Noboot, Vibration Dampener by Doc.

  4. #4
    Very Active Member billybovine's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    Mitchell, Ontario, Canada
    Posts
    5,532
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Pull the fuse for the radio F6 and see if the problem goes away. There have been some radios from 2011 and 2012 that have caused this.

    2018 F3 LIMITED

  5. #5
    Active Member Raknid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Central NJ
    Posts
    307
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Thanks for the suggestions on the key program and radio fuse. I actually did have a key programmed/replaced last year after I accidentally washed the old key with my shorts. Is there a way to tell if left in programming mode?
    2012 RT-SE5

  6. #6
    Very Active Member BLUEKNIGHT911's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Location
    Central VERMONT
    Posts
    12,670
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    VAMPIRE drain = Parasitic lose …. same thing …. above have given good info ….. I don't think your battery has been damaged and should be fine ….. I think any Maintainer can replace the power your Battery should have but it will take 48+ hrs. of use ….. Not only using the Spyder to keep battery charged, with it's magneto charging system you NEED to stay above 4000 rpms for it to give Max juice output….. Mike …… ALSO clean your Batt. terminals and ADD Star washers to the terminals to get them TIGHT ….. normal vibrations with a Spyder can loosen them... DO NOT USE Lok-tite

  7. #7
    Very Active Member Snowbelt Spyder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    Chardon, OH
    Posts
    647
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Raknid View Post
    Thanks for the suggestions on the key program and radio fuse. I actually did have a key programmed/replaced last year after I accidentally washed the old key with my shorts. Is there a way to tell if left in programming mode?
    Iíll have to check, or maybe Billy remembers, too. I seem to remember programming just one key is exactly what would cause that. Somebody will get back on that.


    Doug

    2012 Spyder RT LTD Lava Bronze, RT 622

    Original Owner

    Seal Pups, F4 Customs SWCV, Corbin, JT's Air Filter, Cat Bypass, Power Commander V, NBV, SpyderFlap, Rivco Dual Flag Holder, Lidlox, Baja Ron Sway Bar, links, plugs and wires, Adjustable Chrome Side Vents, Spyderpops Block Off Plate and Belt Guard, Bump Skid, Canisterectomy, Akrapovic, TricLed HL/FL, Spyder Cuff with X-Grip, S-Drive, Rock Armour, P238, Laser Alignment by Gray Ghost, Windshield Arm by Noboot, Vibration Dampener by Doc.

  8. #8
    Active Member Raknid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Central NJ
    Posts
    307
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    battery has recharged fine over night when back on the Tender. We actually keep the RPM above 4500 at cruise so that should not be an issue.

    Has to be enough of a drain to kill the battery over the course of a week (parasitic or vampire drain) or a battery/charging system issue. The last ride before this occurred, was actually fairly long (not errands or start/shut down/ repeats) and it had come off the Tender just before that ride. So it was fully charged before that ride.
    2012 RT-SE5

  9. #9
    Very Active Member Snowbelt Spyder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Location
    Chardon, OH
    Posts
    647
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Programming keys - You can review Bob's video.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8xbXEE_ky4

    The process of programming the new key would have caused your original key that wasn't washed, to be erased and not work anymore. So, if you have verified since then that you have two working keys, then the required minimum of two keys were programmed. So, from that standpoint you're ok, unless there's some way to screw it up by following the instructions that he proves to be wrong. The 2011 and 2012 instructions had the same errors. Or possibly the switch was turned off before the display read SUCCESS.

    If you monitor the voltage drain with a voltmeter and you feel that it is excessive, certainly the key programming from last year could be more than just coincidence. Good Luck.


    Doug

    2012 Spyder RT LTD Lava Bronze, RT 622

    Original Owner

    Seal Pups, F4 Customs SWCV, Corbin, JT's Air Filter, Cat Bypass, Power Commander V, NBV, SpyderFlap, Rivco Dual Flag Holder, Lidlox, Baja Ron Sway Bar, links, plugs and wires, Adjustable Chrome Side Vents, Spyderpops Block Off Plate and Belt Guard, Bump Skid, Canisterectomy, Akrapovic, TricLed HL/FL, Spyder Cuff with X-Grip, S-Drive, Rock Armour, P238, Laser Alignment by Gray Ghost, Windshield Arm by Noboot, Vibration Dampener by Doc.

  10. #10
    Active Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    61770
    Posts
    42
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Battery tender sells an accessory that plugs into your tender cord from the battery and tells you battery voltage. This may help you monitor the battery drain better.

  11. #11
    Active Member Raknid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    Central NJ
    Posts
    307
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    http://products.batterytender.com/Ac...D-Display.html

    Thanks...just over $15 USD on Amazon. Good to know..
    2012 RT-SE5

  12. #12
    Active Member Sarge's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Yanceyville,NC
    Posts
    78
    Spyder Garage
    2

    Default

    Have you installed any USB type chargers that remain "hot" all the time when the bike is switched off? GPS? This could also be a source of the drain.
    Ride Safe.
    Shoot Straight.
    Speak the Truth.

    David & Deb Parsons
    "Sarge"
    2015 Circuit Yellow Spyder RT Limited
    2010 Velocity Yellow Kawasaki VN1700 Voyager
    2005 Nomad 1600 (Sold)
    AVA Member
    VROC Member
    KawaNOW Member
    Patriot Guard Rider
    US Army M.I., Retired
    NRA Instructor & N.C. CCW Instructor
    Never mind Area51. Worry about the other 50, or more!

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •