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    Sad! Not much detail but sad nonetheless.
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    Default Unbelieveable....

    Hopefully they can find out what happened though it will not help those involed...'s to all the family and friends of those who did not make it and strenght to those that are recovering.
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    They are surmising the pickup truck driver started drifting off onto the shoulder, over-corrected and lost control because of the huge trailer he was towing. Very sad.

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    I read about this in the paper. Terrible
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    Read about this today. The article I saw had a couple different pictures. One showed the pickup in flames on the shoulder of the wrong side of the road. There were skid marks going across the road from right to left with motorcycles wrecked in the road amid those skids. Looks like the pickup, for whatever reason, crossed the double yellow line and plowed through the group of bikes. Very sad..... Jim
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    My thanks to whoever changed the title; would have changed it myself after some thought but was on ride.

    Here's more from NPR. We've lost some brothers. Thoughts and prayers for the families.https://www.npr.org/2019/06/22/73502...p-leaving-7-de
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    Default Just Senseless carnage... see So Sad in General Discussion


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    Bob this info was posted here at 7:54 AM ….. Mike

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    I missed the day's earlier events...

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    Quote Originally Posted by canamjhb View Post
    Read about this today. The article I saw had a couple different pictures. One showed the pickup in flames on the shoulder of the wrong side of the road. There were skid marks going across the road from right to left with motorcycles wrecked in the road amid those skids. Looks like the pickup, for whatever reason, crossed the double yellow line and plowed through the group of bikes. Very sad..... Jim
    I'm pretty sure the p/u truck driver drifted onto the shoulder and over-corrected trying to get back onto asphalt. Exacerbated by the fact he was towing a huge trailer.

    This was a group of active and retired US Marines. They face unimaginable threats overseas only to meet their fate on a bucolic country road in the US.

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    Just a horrible accident, we all think we'll have time to make that evasive maneouver and then something like this occurs and there are just no options in that devastating moment, RIP.

    This lady rider at the link had the split second to lay her bike down and roll out of the way.
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    Very very sad, prayers and thoughts go out to all involved.

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    Pick-up driver charged with 7 counts of negligent homicide. From our local news station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lew L View Post
    Pick-up driver charged with 7 counts of negligent homicide. From our local news station.
    Just read about this too. It also said he was charged with being a fugitive. This is a slowly unfolding story..... Jim
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    The news has kept a lid on this one, there's going to be a story break out soon. He was charged this morning but there's still some thing there! Bad day for the people and the state of NH!! A boat load of people run those roads in that mountain range it ia breath takeing, easy place for rubber necking!!! Bless the friends and family's!!!

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    I REALLY hate to say this, and thought about it for a couple of days, before opening my mouth...

    This is what happens when a "Group Ride" doesn't leave enough space between the bikes...

    You don't have to be sniffing the tailpipe of the guy in front of you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    I REALLY hate to say this, and thought about it for a couple of days, before opening my mouth...

    This is what happens when a "Group Ride" doesn't leave enough space between the bikes...

    You don't have to be sniffing the tailpipe of the guy in front of you...

    Sorry...
    I guess I have to disagree with this. This is what happens when a person is driving a vehicle, not paying attention and quite possibly (very good possibility based on most recent news reports) under the influence of drugs and alcohol, weaving into the oncoming traffic lane. He happened to hit motorcycles but could have just as easily hit cars, bicyclist's, people walking on the side of the road. This is no fault of the riders in my opinion.

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    Would you rather be right: or alive?
    Leaving a safe distance between you, and the rider of front of you: gives you room for emergency maneuvers…

    For them to get taken out like that: they were racked-up like bowling pins in an alley...

    Please don't misunderstand... I'd much rather be wrong about this: but I know that I'm not.

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    Thumbs up Riding tight.

    I'm right with ya Bob.

    It never made much sense to me to ride "tight" . I'm not a big group rider but I'd just as soon ride sweep and leave room between us. I have often had to tap the brake light to get a rider off my tailpipe. Not a brake check, just a tap to light all the lights I have on the trunk.
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    I agree with BOTH Bob and Rob. The ultimate fault lies with the truck driver who mowed them down. But it up to us, the riders, to know that "stuff" happens. We need to always be prepared for "stuff". Maybe, just maybe, if they were not riding in a close-knit group more could have taken evasive action like one lady did resulting in fewer fatalities. I won't criticize others for the way they want to ride. It is their ride and their life. Lots of riders around here that will ride two abreast on a two lane road. They all seem to be either cops or Harley riders. Cops have special training for this. Most of the rest of us do not. As for me, I am an old rider. I plan to be an older rider. My reactions are still pretty good but not as good as they once were. I take a little extra space to avoid "stuff".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Denman View Post
    I REALLY hate to say this, and thought about it for a couple of days, before opening my mouth...

    This is what happens when a "Group Ride" doesn't leave enough space between the bikes...

    You don't have to be sniffing the tailpipe of the guy in front of you...

    Sorry...
    So Sad, When someone without direct knowledge of the facts or circumstances makes up their own facts to blame the victim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CopperSpyder View Post
    So Sad, When someone without direct knowledge of the facts or circumstances makes up their own facts to blame the victim.
    I never said that I blamed the riders for the accident: that fault lies clearly with the driver of the truck.
    HOWEVER: there is absolutely no way; that he could have done the damage that he did; if they were maintaining safe following distances.
    When the crap hit the fan: they were slow to react; because they had no safe place to go. They sim,ply pinned each other in...

    Nothing was made up: this is just a case of looking at what happened, and figuring out why it did.

    (I've been doing accident investigations for years...)


    I get that nobody wants the bikers to be at fault. It just doesn't always work out the way that we'd like.

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    I will wait for the accident report to come out and detail what they did or didn't do. From initial reports, it sounded like they had just pulled onto the road and traveled a short distance before the truck came at them. If that is accurate, they probably were not real arranged yet and maybe even attention backward looking for all the group to have gotten on together. That is hearsay though that I've read in a couple of reports. I'll wait for the accident reconstruction people to do their work. You are right, we need to leave space and not be bowling pins... that much is good advice. The groups that I ride with either do that... or I won't ride with them. So sad for all the families impacted by this... and all of us impacted feeling the wind's connection to the fallen.

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