What Oil Frequency and Oil Type do you use?

[rhino1]

Ron, what weight and exact AMSOIL do u use? Can u post a pic of the bottle. Thanx Rhino

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

I'll add to this old thread. Go to https://www.spyderlovers.com/forums/...47#post1682047 to see the latest oil analysis for my RT.

[CloverHillCrawler]

Walmart is selling 1 gal 5w/40 full synthetic Rotella T-6 for $23.48 . ..... Mike .....check Tractor Supply they often have Rotella coupons ( 2.5 gal $60.00 )....

Just picked up some at Walmart for my next change, they have the T6 15w-40 2.5 gallon on sale for $56.00. covers me not only for this oil change but the next one too!

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Shell-Rot..._LIA&gclsrc=ds

[BajaRon]

Ron, what weight and exact AMSOIL do u use? Can u post a pic of the bottle. Thanx Rhino

Amsoil MCF 10/40 is what we use and recommend. Some that run in triple digit temps go with the 20/50, which is not a bad idea. In my opinion, the 10/40 is a better viscosity than the 5/40 that BRP recommends. I've detailed why elsewhere so I won't bore everyone again with it. I also feel that a 'Blended' oil is more marketing than it is value.

BRP recommends what they sell. And though they used to sell and recommend their 10/40, they don't have that viscosity anymore.

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[Deanna777]

This is my first Spyder. I plan to take it to the dealer for it's first 3000 mile checkup. I am wondering what frequency others change their oil and what oil type? I have used full synthetic on my last couple of crusier motorcycles.

Hi kentshaf,

Change the oil in your spyder per the owners manual.

Also, change the oil before you put it into winter storage. The oil can produce combustion by products that can harm your engine during long-term storage. I noticed that you are from Grant MI.

Here is another idea, put fresh gas and stable in the gas tank before you put the spyder into hibernation.

Deanna

[Mikey]

And to think this thread started back in 2019!

[EdMat]

And to think this thread started back in 2019!

There is no statute of limitations regarding a post reply.

[LongIsland]

This is my first Spyder. I plan to take it to the dealer for it's first 3000 mile checkup. I am wondering what frequency others change their oil and what oil type? I have used full synthetic on my last couple of crusier motorcycles.

At minimum follow the schedule in your owner's manual. Both the type of oil and the oil change frequency schedule is in the owner's manual which can be found on the BRP wepsite. Page 112 starts the maintenance schedule, page 113 has oil change frequency; page 164 provides the oil specification. Ride Safe.

[Vincef329]

Exactly the recommended interval, Valvoline 5-40 full synth euro and a brp filter. Also installed Lamonster magnetic plug. Runs and shifts great.

[BajaRon]

And to think this thread started back in 2019!

Ah! But the subject matter started at least by the 17th Century BC when the Egyptians used olive oil to lubricate the movement of large stones and other heavy objects. I'm sure they were arguing about which brand and viscosity was best, even back then.

Which just goes to prove that the old saying is true. 'There is nothing new under the sun'.

[pegasus1300]

Exactly the recommended interval, Valvoline 5-40 full synth euro and a brp filter. Also installed Lamonster magnetic plug. Runs and shifts great.

I could be wrong but I don't think Euro is the right Valvoline to use. I think you need 4 Stroke Motorcycle oil full synthetic, It comes in 10w 40 or 20w50. The motorcycle oil is wet clutch specific. The Euro is a European car oil and may not work in wet clutches.

[Gwolf]

Ah! But the subject matter started at least by the 17th Century BC when the Egyptians used olive oil to lubricate the movement of large stones and other heavy objects. I'm sure they were arguing about which brand and viscosity was best, even back then.

Which just goes to prove that the old saying is true. 'There is nothing new under the sun'.

Method of extracting 10W-40 Olive Oil posted in cartouche on Egyptian Tomb.

[K80Shooter]

I could be wrong but I don't think Euro is the right Valvoline to use. I think you need 4 Stroke Motorcycle oil full synthetic, It comes in 10w 40 or 20w50. The motorcycle oil is wet clutch specific. The Euro is a European car oil and my not work in wet clutches.

I just looked at the spec sheet myself. I think "if" it were mine that I would drain it out and replace it with an approved oil.

[EdMat]

I just looked at the spec sheet myself. I think "if" it were mine that I would drain it out and replace it with an approved oil.

Yep, no mention of JASO or MA2 on it. That does not mean that it would not meet those standards, but I would be concerned with so many other good choices out there.

[carbonation]

I could be wrong but I don't think Euro is the right Valvoline to use. I think you need 4 Stroke Motorcycle oil full synthetic, It comes in 10w 40 or 20w50. The motorcycle oil is wet clutch specific. The Euro is a European car oil and my not work in wet clutches.

Euro style oils typically have better HTHS numbers (high temp/high shear) and high calcium levels for extended drain intervals.
Both of what you want in a common sump/gearbox. Leave it in, it's fine.
Lots of discussion on car vs. MC oils. When you analyze them, many are splitting hairs. The difference between Mobil1 car oil and MC oil is a bit more Z and P, and about 7PPM less moly in the MC oil. Both are, for all practical purposes, interchangeable.Wet clutches slip and glaze because of spring tension in the clutch basket or other mechanical problems, not because of oils.
I just bought a stash of 10w40 Havoline conventional for future changes because those weights are becoming less and less popular with the auto crowd. It was on closeout, and can't beat 2.00 a quart now. The trend is going thinner, there are now some 0w8 offerings for cars. I'm not worried in the least putting a conventional, auto oil in the Spyder for the next season.

[ekusafetyman]

Shell Rotella® T6 5W-40 Full Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Engine Oil, 2.5 Gallon $56.00 at WalMart

[BLUEKNIGHT911]

Euro style oils typically have better HTHS numbers (high temp/high shear) and high calcium levels for extended drain intervals.
Both of what you want in a common sump/gearbox. Leave it in, it's fine.
Lots of discussion on car vs. MC oils. When you analyze them, many are splitting hairs. The difference between Mobil1 car oil and MC oil is a bit more Z and P, and about 7PPM less moly in the MC oil. Both are, for all practical purposes, interchangeable.Wet clutches slip and glaze because of spring tension in the clutch basket or other mechanical problems, not because of oils.
I just bought a stash of 10w40 Havoline conventional for future changes because those weights are becoming less and less popular with the auto crowd. It was on closeout, and can't beat 2.00 a quart now. The trend is going thinner, there are now some 0w8 offerings for cars. I'm not worried in the least putting a conventional, auto oil in the Spyder for the next season.

I'm hyper FRUGAL, but I wouldn't take his advice..... if the oil doesn't have a Jaso MA II rating it's NOT going in my Spyder - PERIOD ..... good luck .... Mike

[Dasmoetorhead]

Shell Rotella® T6 5W-40 Full Synthetic Heavy Duty Diesel Engine Oil, 2.5 Gallon $56.00 at WalMart

Yep! I can use this in my Ram Cummins 6.7, and the ACE 1330. Win Win.

[JDTOLLAND]

Agreed. I use Amsoil and have used it for all my bikes. Would not use anything else.

[2dogs]

Gotta love these endless oil threads. Here's the best one I've read yet. Got it off of FB. I think I might try it and then send it in for analysis. LOL

"I use waste oil from the local take out food store. It' full syn veg based oil cost nothing just filter it though an 'old' sock and away you go. Saves the environment as well."

If you do this before I do let me know how it works and let us know if you feel an increase in HP also. Some say helps with those of us who complain about noxious fumes and gives your exhaust the slight odor of french fries. Stay safe out there and protect the environment.

[IdahoMtnSpyder]

Gotta love these endless oil threads. Here's the best one I've read yet. Got it off of FB. I think I might try it and then send it in for analysis. LOL

"I use waste oil from the local take out food store. It' full syn veg based oil cost nothing just filter it though an 'old' sock and away you go. Saves the environment as well."

If you do this before I do let me know how it works and let us know if you feel an increase in HP also. Some say helps with those of us who complain about noxious fumes and gives your exhaust the slight odor of french fries. Stay safe out there and protect the environment.

Workable, but maybe not economical, to use such oil for fuel but I sure wouldn't try it for engine oil!

[Peter Aawen]

Gotta love these endless oil threads. Here's the best one I've read yet. Got it off of FB. I think I might try it and then send it in for analysis. LOL

"I use waste oil from the local take out food store. It' full syn veg based oil cost nothing just filter it though an 'old' sock and away you go. Saves the environment as well."

If you do this before I do let me know how it works and let us know if you feel an increase in HP also. Some say helps with those of us who complain about noxious fumes and gives your exhaust the slight odor of french fries. Stay safe out there and protect the environment.

Waste cooking oil works fine if you're using it as fuel for an old-style mechanical pump type diesel engine, I know of vehicles that've done hundreds of thousands of miles on nothing but waste cooking oil from the local fish'n'chip shops!! Even run a few diesel engined vehicles on it myself.

Mind you, it's not so good for the more modern electronic injector pumps &/or common rail diesel engines, but there are some who still do use it.... .... mostly just for a short while, tho! Doing that can get very expensive very quickly! . But there are 'bio-diesel' alternative fuels that work quite well for those more modern diesel engines.


Still, I'm pretty sure that I'd never risk using waste cooking oil, fully synthetic or not, as engine or transmission oil in a diesel OR in my car/truck/Spyder tho - not even if it was run thru a better filter than an 'old sock'!!

[K80Shooter]

Gotta love these endless oil threads. Here's the best one I've read yet. Got it off of FB. I think I might try it and then send it in for analysis. LOL

"I use waste oil from the local take out food store. It' full syn veg based oil cost nothing just filter it though an 'old' sock and away you go. Saves the environment as well."

If you do this before I do let me know how it works and let us know if you feel an increase in HP also. Some say helps with those of us who complain about noxious fumes and gives your exhaust the slight odor of french fries. Stay safe out there and protect the environment.

Not sure about an engine oil but, it works great as a chainsaw chain oil. When I'm cutting wood that I plan to use in my smoker, I use cooking oil.

[tntnj]

Like Mike said Walmart is selling 1 gal 5w/40 full synthetic Rotella T-6 for $23.48 . .........check Tractor Supply they often have Rotella coupons ( 2.5 gal $60.00 )....

I change the oil every 5K miles, and use the Rotella T-6 ( I do ride in the winter so I don't change the oil untill the spring untill hit the 5K mark).

[Little Blue]

....Well you can use any oil that has the correct Specs stated by BRP.
Soooooo..... I have been using Mobil 1 Motorcycle for my Spyder. I use the 10w40 which is a 'Full Synthetic Oil'.
Like others have said, BRP used to have and sell a 'full synthetic' 10w40 oil for our Spyders. Now they don't offer this any longer. They have gone to a 'blended oil'.

So now you know the 'rest of the story'. .....