Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 27
  1. #1
    Active Member Airborne's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Tasmania, Ausralia
    Posts
    88
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default Begs the question

    It 'begs the question' How do Can Am manage to sell these things!

    I meen, i had some idea about the handling issues but geez it really put me off.

    On my demo ride it really did feel 'so wrong' it was just what i had read on these type of sites [ from knowable/helpful folks] and the promise that a wheel alignment would 'fix it up' that kept me interested. Even when mine was delivered it felt dangerous.

    I think a simple test ride would kill it for a lot of people!

    Still i'm glad i stuck with it as you can see from my recent posts.

  2. #2
    Active Member Cobwebs's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Location
    Australia
    Posts
    98
    Spyder Garage
    1

  3. #3
    Active Member Wahrsuul's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    Central SC
    Posts
    84
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    I get it - on my test rid, I almost took it back after the first mile or two. After a few more miles I started to adjust. If you're coming from 2 wheels, everything feels "wrong". But after some advice from here, I'm still looking for my RT.

  4. #4
    SpyderLovers Sponsor BajaRon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Location
    Greeneville, TN
    Posts
    10,463
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    If you are coming off 2 wheels, everything DOES feel wrong with a Spyder. TRUE THAT!

    In my experience, this 'Wrong' feeling is about 90% rider and 10% Spyder. Though I can assure you, in my case I thought it was 100% Spyder and 0% me! And no one could have talked me out of it. It was only after several hundred miles that my opinion started to change and reality finally broke through.

    Once I started to admit that it was me and not the machine, I began to make the necessary adjustments and everything started to get much better. I am so glad I stuck with it. I'd have missed out on so much if I'd have thrown in the towel (which believe me, I was tempted to do more than once).

    The moral of the story is that you can adjust. Though it might take a bit of time, it is well worth the effort.

    Helicopters and airplanes both fly. But they require a completely different approach and skill set to operate as designed. True also of 2 wheels compared to 3.
    Last edited by BajaRon; 05-20-2019 at 08:14 AM.
    Only SLOW people have to leave on time...





  5. #5
    Active Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Location
    Bloomington, Minnesota
    Posts
    230
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    It took me about 3000 miles and a change from the RTL to the F3L. My RTL was suceptible to crosswinds and was very sensitive to crowned roads. It did have a lazar alignment.

    When I test drove the F3 it was a breath of fresh air for me. I loved the lower center of gravity and how it tracked on two laners. You never know, each bike and rider are different.

  6. #6
    Very Active Member blacklightning's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2013
    Location
    Apex, N.C.
    Posts
    2,004
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    I understand totally. The first 500 miles, I thought I had made a terrible mistake. After that, it just keeps getting better.
    I also rented a harley road glide for 6 hours in the mountains. Before that, I had only taken short test rides. About 30 miles into my rental, I continued to complain about the character of the road glide. But after that, and learning that I could not take corners hard, due to low ground clearance, I started to like it. Would I buy one, no. But was it worth the experience, yes indeed.

  7. #7
    SpyderLovers Sponsor SpyderAnn01's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Las Vegas
    Posts
    12,517
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    I loved mine from the first ride.

    2017 F3T-SM6 Squared Away Mirror Wedgies & Alignment
    2014 RTS-SM6 123,600 miles Sold 11/2017
    2014 RTL-SE6 8,600 miles
    2011 RTS-SM5 5,000 miles
    2013 RTS-SM5 burned up with 13,200 miles in 13 weeks
    2010 RTS-SM5 59,148 miles
    2010 RT- 622

  8. #8
    Active Member
    Join Date
    May 2018
    Location
    Chateauguay, Qc, Canada
    Posts
    111
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    I took about half a dozen test rides before I bought one. I bought it because my wife said she would no longer ride with me on a 2 wheeler. Now she feels more secure and is happy again. I am also happy to get some wind in my face and not worry about hurting my wife and not dropping my bike. Evolution I guess.
    Eckhard

    Spyder RT Ltd, 2011

  9. #9
    Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2019
    Location
    Hanover, PA
    Posts
    12
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Eckhard View Post
    I took about half a dozen test rides before I bought one. I bought it because my wife said she would no longer ride with me on a 2 wheeler. Now she feels more secure and is happy again. I am also happy to get some wind in my face and not worry about hurting my wife and not dropping my bike. Evolution I guess.
    I didn't take as many test rides but this is our exact reasoning for getting our RT. I still feel more comfortable on 2 wheels when by myself (we have only put 1000 miles on the Spyder so far), but I feel better 2 up on it than on a 2 wheeler and I know she feels a lot safer too. I still feel a bit uneasy going into some corners (maybe a Baja Ron swaybar will help) but she doesn't know that on the back so all is well

  10. #10
    Very Active Member 4 MARIE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Beloit Kansas
    Posts
    816
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    You learn it you love it.

    That about says it all. Glad you stuck with it.
    Flatlander, Navy Veteran, Widower
    Loved my 2014 RTS SE6 Pearl white
    but have a new love now,
    my 2017 RTS SE6 Champagne metallic (Champ)

  11. #11
    Active Member Airborne's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Tasmania, Ausralia
    Posts
    88
    Spyder Garage
    0

  12. #12
    Active Member Airborne's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Tasmania, Ausralia
    Posts
    88
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Reminds me of my first wife!

  13. #13
    Very Active Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Location
    Oakley, Utah & Yuma, Arizona
    Posts
    5,137
    Spyder Garage
    2

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderAnn01 View Post
    I loved mine from the first ride.

    2014 RTL Platinum & 2014 RTL Cognac
    Northern Utah in summer; Yuma, AZ in winter.

  14. #14
    Active Member Airborne's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Tasmania, Ausralia
    Posts
    88
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Wahrsuul View Post
    I get it - on my test rid, I almost took it back after the first mile or two. After a few more miles I started to adjust. If you're coming from 2 wheels, everything feels "wrong". But after some advice from here, I'm still looking for my RT.
    My experience exactly.

  15. #15
    Active Member Airborne's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Tasmania, Ausralia
    Posts
    88
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Eckhard View Post
    I took about half a dozen test rides before I bought one. I bought it because my wife said she would no longer ride with me on a 2 wheeler. Now she feels more secure and is happy again. I am also happy to get some wind in my face and not worry about hurting my wife and not dropping my bike. Evolution I guess.
    Got it, after my Saturday ride i was so happy with the progress i was making i felt confident to take my wife for a ride on Sunday, she thought it very stable and the most comfortable bike she'd been on the back of.

  16. #16
    Active Member spydernatic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Covington Georgia USA
    Posts
    189
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Eckhard View Post
    I took about half a dozen test rides before I bought one. I bought it because my wife said she would no longer ride with me on a 2 wheeler. Now she feels more secure and is happy again. I am also happy to get some wind in my face and not worry about hurting my wife and not dropping my bike. Evolution I guess.
    Exactly what happened to us I had a bad 2 wheeler accident in the mid 70's and never thought of getting back onto a 2wheeler but when we saw the Spyder at our local dealer on a Saturday and they had a tent sale the next Saturday with a $2000 discount on a 2012 RTL We bought it and have never being happier both LOVE riding our Spyder

    2017 RT Limited

  17. #17
    Active Member Spyder Insyder's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2018
    Location
    Payson, Arizona
    Posts
    46
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    As I mentioned in a previous post, the dynamics on three wheels are totally different from two wheels. I think the fact that I owned a Ural sidecar outfit before buying a Spyder was a factor in my case. If you think a Spyder handles differently, try a sidecar. On a sidecar left turns are different than right turns. If you take a right turn too fast it will lift the car. When you accelerate, it wants to veer right. When you decelerate it wants to veer left. Even with all those idiosyncrasies, it was a hoot to ride. But my point is, by comparison, the Spyder felt very tame.

  18. #18
    Active Member Raprider's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2017
    Location
    Central NJ
    Posts
    310
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default

    rickmiller48...
    Look into PA SpyderRyders (on Facebook)...they're out of Allentown area and will help you rack up some miles
    Raprider (Rich)

    2016 Can-Am Spyder ST-S SE5 Steel Black Metallic (Blackbird)
    BRP Audio, Heated Grips, Fog Lights, Passenger Backrest, Givi Saddlebags/Top Case
    BajaRon Swaybar, Wide-Vu Mirrors, Lamonster Ram mount and X-grip, Sena 20S Evo Dual

    1996 Yamaha Virago 750 (Vera) - still riding
    1987 Honda Shadow 500 (Shady) - sold
    1982 Honda Rebel 250 (Little Reb) - sold


  19. #19
    Very Active Member Chupaca's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    San Diego, CA.
    Posts
    30,476
    Spyder Garage
    1

    Default Welcome, welcome 👍

    They sell very well. The main thing with the spyders (not the Ryker) is the fact that they have a DPS (Dynamic power steering). This is a electric steering assist system and it tends to work against the converted two wheel ryder who depends on leaning as the better part of ryding. It can be very sensetive to the white knuckle grip of a new ryder making it a bit scary as it corrects jerky unsure movement. Once you gain confidence that the spyder has the ability to track well and you relax that grip you will find a great ryde. This process will vary with each ryder. Some may take longer than others with a rule of thumb of 300 to 500 miles. I got on it with no test ryde and rode it like I had owned it all my life. There are many adjustments that can be done but really recommend that after you get comfortable with it.
    Gene and Ilana De Laney
    Mt. Helix, California

    ​2012 RS sm5

  20. #20
    aka: akspyderman ARtraveler's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    NW Arkansas
    Posts
    33,907
    Spyder Garage
    6

    Default

    Glad to see the "learning curve" is working. Hang in there.

    Currently Owned: 2011 RT A&C SE5 (magnesium), 2014 RTS-SE6 (yellow), 2015 Vulcan 900 LTD

    Previously : 2008 GS-SM5 (silver), 2009 RS-SE5 (red), 2010 RT-S Premier Editon #474 (black) Pictures of 2008 and 2009 Spyders are in Alaska Albums 2009 and 2010.
    5 Spyders, 10 years, 145,375 miles


  21. #21
    Active Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    IA
    Posts
    92
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Heck we just bought a 19' RTL last Saturday, still waiting for delivery.......Never even rode it!
    But, not coming from a true motorcycle back ground I hope it'll be easy to get used to.....not worried.

    P.W.

  22. #22
    Very Active Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Location
    Northern Kalifornia
    Posts
    979
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    I rode two different spyder demos prior to making a purchase. One was squirrely as all get out and the other one took to a straight line like it was made for it. Both were RTs. Looking back, the squirrley one must have been way out of alignment. I noticed that the squirrely one sat in the dealer parking lot for a long time after I purchased mine. I just wonder now many potential spyder buyers rode that spooky spyder and were deterred from ever owning a spyder. Mine was a little squirrely until I had it "Squared Away" properly. Both sides were out of alignment and just enough that each complemented the other and it was fairly stable. 2 1/2 inches on one side and 2 on the other. The only obvious problem I had with mine was severe cupping. The dealer's service manager had told me that was normal, "they all did that."

  23. #23
    Active Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    IA
    Posts
    92
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    I'm having it laser aliened by the dealer before I take possession to make sure all is good.

  24. #24
    Active Member Airborne's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Tasmania, Ausralia
    Posts
    88
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Spyder Insyder View Post
    As I mentioned in a previous post, the dynamics on three wheels are totally different from two wheels. I think the fact that I owned a Ural sidecar outfit before buying a Spyder was a factor in my case. If you think a Spyder handles differently, try a sidecar. On a sidecar left turns are different than right turns. If you take a right turn too fast it will lift the car. When you accelerate, it wants to veer right. When you decelerate it wants to veer left. Even with all those idiosyncrasies, it was a hoot to ride. But my point is, by comparison, the Spyder felt very tame.
    A friend of mine has a Suzuki Bandit with sidecar attached and he's told me of the characteristics of the handling so i had an ides, mind you he carries a great dane in the side car to balance things up, gotta say though it's quite sight to see this Dane coming down the road with helmet, goggles and scarf flying in the wind.

  25. #25
    Active Member Airborne's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Tasmania, Ausralia
    Posts
    88
    Spyder Garage
    0

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Chupaca View Post
    They sell very well. The main thing with the spyders (not the Ryker) is the fact that they have a DPS (Dynamic power steering). This is a electric steering assist system and it tends to work against the converted two wheel ryder who depends on leaning as the better part of ryding. It can be very sensetive to the white knuckle grip of a new ryder making it a bit scary as it corrects jerky unsure movement. Once you gain confidence that the spyder has the ability to track well and you relax that grip you will find a great ryde. This process will vary with each ryder. Some may take longer than others with a rule of thumb of 300 to 500 miles. I got on it with no test ryde and rode it like I had owned it all my life. There are many adjustments that can be done but really recommend that after you get comfortable with it.
    Now i've been on her for a while makes perfect sense, however my point was for and about the people who say yes, this looks great and ride a demo, a first time ride on one. It can feel daunting, i understand they sell well but how many walk away i wonder.

    Thanks for the welcome!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •