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    Quote Originally Posted by flyjake View Post
    OK, after I saw your report I went on Amazon last week and ordered a pair (LI-1157RCZ), "only 1 in stock." Put them in this morning, took a 50-mile trip through stop-n-go, and they worked beautifully. This so far is the only LED bulb available with built-in circuitry that will work with the Spyder. Any ordinary LED will trip the computer and set up the "limp mode" reading.
    I have the Sport rack and it took a while to install; loosened the rack, removed both rear side panels and under panel, and removed one screw on each brake light assembly. I wiggled each assembly down enough to reach in, turn each bulb socket counter-clockwise and pull the socket out. Removed each bulb, replaced with led and put everything together again. (It helped that I have small hands; otherwise the whole rack would have had to come off.)
    I am planning a long trip and did not want to worry about replacing a bulb on the road. When NMN "(ESI)" has the Givi bag lights available, I will order and install those as well, and that will give me lots of brake light !!

    I'm going to give them a shot too as sending in my parts, etc. just won't work. I'm also wanting to buy the GIVI bag lights from NMN - as soon as they are listed on their website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly View Post
    I'm going to give them a shot too as sending in my parts, etc. just won't work. I'm also wanting to buy the GIVI bag lights from NMN - as soon as they are listed on their website.
    Fire,

    Why doesn't sending your lights in work? It only took a few days...was a very simple process...the lights are bright as heck and, of course, work fine...

    Send on a Monday, you'll have back by Wed. or Thursday, unless you live in an extreme location.
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    Two questions, one easy.

    1. Do these Pilot LEDs flash initially when brakes are applied and then go into steady mode?

    2. Any thoughts on why they are not DOT approved? Made in China and not submitted for DOT review? Do they lose some brightness if not viewed directly from behind like some LEDs? Components don't meet DOT stds? ???. Checking local Auto Zone, Advance Auto, etc, but looks like Pep Boys may be only oulet in Michigan.

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    Some companies don't want to spend the BIG $$$ to get the full DOT testing done on their products to sure they meet DOT requirements.

    Without the testing being done they can't be sure the products are DOT compliant and are sure they meet the grade?

    So, although anybody can say their product is DOT compliant, the fines are HUGE if you say they are, and testing shows in fact they are not DOT compliant after you said they were.

    It may not seem like DOT testing should be important, that is right up to the point there is an accident! Then the Lawyers all seem to think IT IS I BIG DEAL for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bone crusher View Post
    Fire,

    Why doesn't sending your lights in work? It only took a few days...was a very simple process...the lights are bright as heck and, of course, work fine...

    Send on a Monday, you'll have back by Wed. or Thursday, unless you live in an extreme location.
    Right now Spyder is my only form of transportation. Other vehicle was taken out by a deer. Maybe come winter time----- but I won't give up riding my Spyder for a few days very easily at all.

    These pep-boys units are NOT DOT certified - says so right on the package - for off-road use only. My guess is they are cheap--- but then again what should we expect for $25 ???

    I would much prefer a unit that can just plug in where the stock bulbs go, so for $25 I may give these a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRPjunkie View Post
    Two questions, one easy.

    1. Do these Pilot LEDs flash initially when brakes are applied and then go into steady mode?

    2. Any thoughts on why they are not DOT approved? Made in China and not submitted for DOT review? Do they lose some brightness if not viewed directly from behind like some LEDs? Components don't meet DOT stds? ???. Checking local Auto Zone, Advance Auto, etc, but looks like Pep Boys may be only oulet in Michigan.
    1. no flashing

    2. i am guessing no money to get it dot certified for when it's retailed at 25 bucks led itself is working very well and these have wider dispersion than others i've seen and yes pepboys are the only ones that have them for now and they just got these in themselves.
    Last edited by aka1004; 07-13-2009 at 11:41 PM.
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    Bump...these LEDs still working ok?
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    no problem for 4000 miles

    also got these from superbrightleds.com and they are much brighter and have wider dispersion and match hid light well but available in amber also.
    Last edited by aka1004; 08-16-2009 at 01:49 AM.
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    Default Break light change, OMG!

    OK, Yesterday I noticed my right break light was out.
    Read some posts on the subject. This thread IMHO was the most helpful.
    Thanks aka1004! I went to Pepboys and picked up the Pilot 1157


    (with the confidence of a seasoned mechanic).
    They tried to sell me a cheaper one. But being versed in the specific
    requirements of the Spyder, I declined the $4.99 bulbs.
    Got home and started install around 23:00. Removed the splash pan (this is going to be easy). Removed two rear rivets to side panels.
    Disconnected the signal lights. unscrewed the back torx screws.
    What The... The side torx screws are covered by this metal plate that secures the rack and backrest. Why didn't BRP put holes in that thing, so that we can reach the side torx screws. The dealer put that thing on.
    How am I supposed to get that off. I'm an artist...I've got brushes...not wrenches!. Sought help from Spyderfriends. Thanks mxz600 for your post on installing your Sport Rack/Backrest. All went well...then...The right screw head is stripped. So I swiveled the bottom around and was able to get in there enough to remove then replace what was needed. Got bulbs in and replaced everything with NO left over screws! Tested lights. Worked perfectly, with no error messages (03:00). Hopefully these LEDs will last a long time. I don't want to do that again any time soon.

    (bubble wrap to protect from dropped tools)
    Thanks again to all of you for this site and the virtual plethora of information you all share.
    Now Let's get back to ryding this thing!
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    I picked up 2 LED tail lights today from my local Lordco store. Part # is HIL-1157R. List cost is about $20.00/ea. Any Napa or auto parts store should be able to source these.

    Cheers
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    Catching a Yellow Jacket in your helmet at 65 mph can double your vocabulary

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    Quote Originally Posted by chillicpl View Post
    I picked up 2 LED tail lights today from my local Lordco store. Part # is HIL-1157R. List cost is about $20.00/ea. Any Napa or auto parts store should be able to source these.

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    100,000 hours ... that's like the life of the bike. Won't have to touch them bulbs "forever".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickie Dick View Post
    These bulbs do not have load equalizers...they will cause your Spyder to go into limp mode. The Pilot LEDs have them and they work great. I have had them for 10,000 miles now with no problems. Amazon and Pep Boys carry them.

    Number One: 2008 Yellow GS SM5. I love my Spyder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Some Guy View Post
    These bulbs do not have load equalizers...they will cause your Spyder to go into limp mode. The Pilot LEDs have them and they work great. I have had them for 10,000 miles now with no problems. Amazon and Pep Boys carry them.
    Good to know. Is this the one?[ame]http://www.amazon.com/Pilot-LI-1157-Brake-Tail-Lamp/dp/B000NWPTU6[/ame]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickie Dick View Post
    That is not it. The one we are using will come in package of two and have black plastic frame on top.
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    Try this link:
    [ame]http://www.amazon.com/Pilot-Automotive-LI-1157RCZ-Wide-Angle/dp/B0026OMV8C[/ame]

    Pilot Automotive LI-1157RCZ Wide Angle LED Bulb

    The one Amazon review posted says they are red, come in pairs and the load circuit doesn't work on all vehicles. But, if SomeGuy says in his post above he's got 10k Spyder miles without problems, I trust him.
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    Be really careful with these-- the solder joints break really easy when you're twisting them in.......

    Spyder #1 - 2008 GS SM5 Premier Edition #1977. RIP after 80,000 miles.
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    Spyder #4 - 2017 F3 SM6. Too good of a deal to pass up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trickie Dick View Post
    Nope. You need LI-1157RCZ bulbs. They run $25-$30 per pair on Amazon. You can Google the p/n, but all the links will eventually take you to Amazon.

    FireFly is correct, it is very easy to break the solder on the head if you twist too hard. But if you're careful on the initial install, you won't ever have any problems with them (based on my experience).

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    I broke that soldered wire but a drop of crazy glue fixed it.
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    Default just ordered a set

    Hello.. I am a new spyder owner.. had the back rest installed and I am now reading that it is "hell" to change the bulbs with the Sportrack on the spyder.. So I ordered a set of these Bulbs.. I hope they are as good as everyone says.. I have also seen on here where people have shaved a section off their taillight housings that is supposed to make it easyier to change the bulbs.. I wounder if that mode works for those of us who have sport racks..

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