Finally found a LED bulb for tail light

[aka1004]

it's sold at pepboys for 25 bucks.
only have them in red. i wish it was white than it would be brighter but it's brighter than stock.
bigger reason for led for me was not having to change them often thou.
i already had to change them 3 times so...
i don't know if you can tell but on first pic, right side is the led. in person led is brighter than stock bulbs.

i only have 40 miles on them but i am going to san diego today so i will report if any problem comes up.

finally, 5th times is the charm

last pic is... was my fiberglass speaker pod that was just ran over by a pick up i just did the body filler and was ready for little sanding than paint...

[tweeder]

whats the part number? I can't make it out in the picture.

[aka1004]

whats the part number? I can't make it out in the picture.

i don't have the package right now but just get the one that says 1157.
look for that label. they are by the neon accessary aisle.

[tweeder]

i don't have the package right now but just get the one that says 1157.
look for that label. they are by the neon accessary aisle.

I'm from canada an we aint gotta pepboys here. I was gonna look online, if they even ship here.

[Roaddog2]

Why is there Cabbage in your speaker pod keep us up to date on your find

[aka1004]

Why is there Cabbage in your speaker pod keep us up to date on your find

i used the styrofoam to shape the pod than fiberglass over it than dug the styrofoam out and there was little styrofoam residue inside, smarty pants

[bone crusher]

it's sold at pepboys for 25 bucks.
only have them in red. i wish it was white than it would be brighter but it's brighter than stock.
bigger reason for led for me was not having to change them often thou.
i already had to change them 3 times so...
i don't know if you can tell but on first pic, right side is the led. in person led is brighter than stock bulbs.

i only have 40 miles on them but i am going to san diego today so i will report if any problem comes up.

finally, 5th times is the charm

last pic is... was my fiberglass speaker pod that was just ran over by a pick up i just did the body filler and was ready for little sanding than paint...

I have the NMN product for the taillight...I see the packaging (your pic) says you don't have to fiddle with the computer, but how do you know that light is really compatible with the Spyder? We know Evan tests his products a lot...

[tatt2r]

I have the NMN product for the taillight...I see the packaging (your pic) says you don't have to fiddle with the computer, but how do you know that light is really compatible with the Spyder? We know Evan tests his products a lot...

evan told me that you cannot change taillights without modifiing other stuff

[aka1004]

after 4 more hours of ryding, there is no sign of any problem.
supposedly, this led has a chip in it to prevent triggering sensors and seems it is working. all the other led i tried triggered spyder's sensor immediately.

[John in PA]

Actually, for LED bulbs, the bulb color needs to match the lens. "White" LED's don't have the same amount of red wavelength as normal bulbs. You need maximum red production to get it through the red lens.
If you use white LED's, your lights will be much dimmer once the red lens is replaced.

[GaryTheBadger]

AKA1004, please keep us posted. If you continue to not have any problems with these LED replacements, that's terrific news! Are they made for the other Spyder lights too?

[aka1004]

Actually, for LED bulbs, the bulb color needs to match the lens. "White" LED's don't have the same amount of red wavelength as normal bulbs. You need maximum red production to get it through the red lens.
If you use white LED's, your lights will be much dimmer once the red lens is replaced.

kool
that does explain why white led that i have tried before in the taillight lens was dimmer than stock bulb(which triggered the sensors).

[Firefly]

I have the NMN product for the taillight...I see the packaging (your pic) says you don't have to fiddle with the computer, but how do you know that light is really compatible with the Spyder? We know Evan tests his products a lot...

Obviously it's compatable if he put it in and it's working. Thanks for finding this ----- will be buying some this weekend! All that was needed was an electronic circuit to draw the proper amount to fool the Spyder computer. Most new cars will just give you a break light alert, or flash, etc. BRP should have done the same on the Spyder - a warning about a burnt out bulb - not causing the bike to go into limp mode---

[flyjake]

it's sold at pepboys for 25 bucks.
only have them in red. i wish it was white than it would be brighter but it's brighter than stock.
bigger reason for led for me was not having to change them often thou.
i already had to change them 3 times so...
i don't know if you can tell but on first pic, right side is the led. in person led is brighter than stock bulbs.

i only have 40 miles on them but i am going to san diego today so i will report if any problem comes up.

finally, 5th times is the charm
...

OK, after I saw your report I went on Amazon last week and ordered a pair (LI-1157RCZ), "only 1 in stock." Put them in this morning, took a 50-mile trip through stop-n-go, and they worked beautifully. This so far is the only LED bulb available with built-in circuitry that will work with the Spyder. Any ordinary LED will trip the computer and set up the "limp mode" reading.
I have the Sport rack and it took a while to install; loosened the rack, removed both rear side panels and under panel, and removed one screw on each brake light assembly. I wiggled each assembly down enough to reach in, turn each bulb socket counter-clockwise and pull the socket out. Removed each bulb, replaced with led and put everything together again. (It helped that I have small hands; otherwise the whole rack would have had to come off.)
I am planning a long trip and did not want to worry about replacing a bulb on the road. When NMN "(ESI)" has the Givi bag lights available, I will order and install those as well, and that will give me lots of brake light !!

[BRPjunkie]

Will someone clarify. Are these $25 each or $25 a pair?

[flyjake]

Will someone clarify. Are these $25 each or $25 a pair?

On Amazon they are $30. a pair.

[aka1004]

Will someone clarify. Are these $25 each or $25 a pair?

it is what it is.
a great buy at $25 a PAIR.
it may or may not be a best solution depending on your needs vs. dollars.
works with spyder without any problem and brighter than stock.

[Firefly]

OK, after I saw your report I went on Amazon last week and ordered a pair (LI-1157RCZ), "only 1 in stock." Put them in this morning, took a 50-mile trip through stop-n-go, and they worked beautifully. This so far is the only LED bulb available with built-in circuitry that will work with the Spyder. Any ordinary LED will trip the computer and set up the "limp mode" reading.
I have the Sport rack and it took a while to install; loosened the rack, removed both rear side panels and under panel, and removed one screw on each brake light assembly. I wiggled each assembly down enough to reach in, turn each bulb socket counter-clockwise and pull the socket out. Removed each bulb, replaced with led and put everything together again. (It helped that I have small hands; otherwise the whole rack would have had to come off.)
I am planning a long trip and did not want to worry about replacing a bulb on the road. When NMN "(ESI)" has the Givi bag lights available, I will order and install those as well, and that will give me lots of brake light !!

I'm going to give them a shot too as sending in my parts, etc. just won't work. I'm also wanting to buy the GIVI bag lights from NMN - as soon as they are listed on their website.

[bone crusher]

I'm going to give them a shot too as sending in my parts, etc. just won't work. I'm also wanting to buy the GIVI bag lights from NMN - as soon as they are listed on their website.

Fire,

Why doesn't sending your lights in work? It only took a few days...was a very simple process...the lights are bright as heck and, of course, work fine...

Send on a Monday, you'll have back by Wed. or Thursday, unless you live in an extreme location.

[BRPjunkie]

Two questions, one easy.

1. Do these Pilot LEDs flash initially when brakes are applied and then go into steady mode?

2. Any thoughts on why they are not DOT approved? Made in China and not submitted for DOT review? Do they lose some brightness if not viewed directly from behind like some LEDs? Components don't meet DOT stds? ???. Checking local Auto Zone, Advance Auto, etc, but looks like Pep Boys may be only oulet in Michigan.

[Magic Man]

Some companies don't want to spend the BIG $$$ to get the full DOT testing done on their products to sure they meet DOT requirements.

Without the testing being done they can't be sure the products are DOT compliant and are sure they meet the grade?

So, although anybody can say their product is DOT compliant, the fines are HUGE if you say they are, and testing shows in fact they are not DOT compliant after you said they were.

It may not seem like DOT testing should be important, that is right up to the point there is an accident! Then the Lawyers all seem to think IT IS I BIG DEAL for sure.

MM

[aka1004]

Two questions, one easy.

1. Do these Pilot LEDs flash initially when brakes are applied and then go into steady mode?

2. Any thoughts on why they are not DOT approved? Made in China and not submitted for DOT review? Do they lose some brightness if not viewed directly from behind like some LEDs? Components don't meet DOT stds? ???. Checking local Auto Zone, Advance Auto, etc, but looks like Pep Boys may be only oulet in Michigan.

1. no flashing

2. i am guessing no money to get it dot certified for when it's retailed at 25 bucks led itself is working very well and these have wider dispersion than others i've seen and yes pepboys are the only ones that have them for now and they just got these in themselves.

[Firefly]

Fire,

Why doesn't sending your lights in work? It only took a few days...was a very simple process...the lights are bright as heck and, of course, work fine...

Send on a Monday, you'll have back by Wed. or Thursday, unless you live in an extreme location.

Right now Spyder is my only form of transportation. Other vehicle was taken out by a deer. Maybe come winter time----- but I won't give up riding my Spyder for a few days very easily at all.

These pep-boys units are NOT DOT certified - says so right on the package - for off-road use only. My guess is they are cheap--- but then again what should we expect for $25 ???

I would much prefer a unit that can just plug in where the stock bulbs go, so for $25 I may give these a shot.

[StSpyder09]

OK, Yesterday I noticed my right break light was out.
Read some posts on the subject. This thread IMHO was the most helpful.
Thanks aka1004! I went to Pepboys and picked up the Pilot 1157


(with the confidence of a seasoned mechanic).
They tried to sell me a cheaper one. But being versed in the specific
requirements of the Spyder, I declined the $4.99 bulbs.
Got home and started install around 23:00. Removed the splash pan (this is going to be easy). Removed two rear rivets to side panels.
Disconnected the signal lights. unscrewed the back torx screws.
What The... The side torx screws are covered by this metal plate that secures the rack and backrest. Why didn't BRP put holes in that thing, so that we can reach the side torx screws. The dealer put that thing on.
How am I supposed to get that off. I'm an artist...I've got brushes...not wrenches!. Sought help from Spyderfriends. Thanks mxz600 for your post on installing your Sport Rack/Backrest. All went well...then...The right screw head is stripped. So I swiveled the bottom around and was able to get in there enough to remove then replace what was needed. Got bulbs in and replaced everything with NO left over screws! Tested lights. Worked perfectly, with no error messages (03:00). Hopefully these LEDs will last a long time. I don't want to do that again any time soon.

(bubble wrap to protect from dropped tools)
Thanks again to all of you for this site and the virtual plethora of information you all share.
Now Let's get back to ryding this thing!

[chillicpl]

I picked up 2 LED tail lights today from my local Lordco store. Part # is HIL-1157R. List cost is about $20.00/ea. Any Napa or auto parts store should be able to source these.

Cheers
Bruce