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    Unhappy 1330 and Gas Mileage Review

    I have been called many things before but one the best was "Stat-Nazi." I have a love for data and information that can be derived from that. With that preface, I have been collection data from every fuel stop that has been made with my 2018 RTL. Trip length, total mileage, cost per gallon, gallons per fill, MPG, cost / mile, total cost. I can make all of that available if any one is truly interested. For me I see the question of how much mileage can I get per tank? What's my MPG?

    In the first 5,444 miles I can answer how it was for me. I average 33.43 MPG. In theory that means 230 miles could be possible on a tank (6.9 gallons).

    Now for the butt-in-seat-honesty. Longest gas station to gas station ryde 180 miles, 4.346 gallons, 41.41 MPG (85% highway ryding). A lot of 150-ish milers, 5.1 - 5.2 gallons, 30 - 31 MPG.

    I rarely use highways, love the back roads and love to ride pretty hard.

    Does this mileage fit your experience? What is the furthest that you have ridden on a single tank? Is that tank 7.1G + a 0.5G reserve? (Not that I am pushing it).

    Just thought I'd share before I start my treks across this great country via the secondary highways .... before the Eisenhower Interstate System (you know the blue and red signs you're all familiar with )
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    I got 40 riding by myself at 68 mph

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    Good info -- thanks for sharing.
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    One interesting stat published by BRP was that you’ll get 50 more miles out of a tank if you travel at 63mph compared to 75mph.

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    Wow..!! lots of stats and good information. I just check each time at the pump to see how it's going. Low 25 mpg (in town heavy traffic) and highest 40 mpg ( mountain roads cool weather) so as long as I am somewhere inbetween I'm good.
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    2014 1330 RT …. 42,000 mi 37.1 mpg ….. and I ride Briskly ...…………. Mike

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    Peteoz,

    I would believe that 100%. My high-speed cruises are definite gas hogs - I find myself watching the gas gauge as much as the road after a while.

    And - thanks to everyone that has answered. It is interesting to hear what others are experiencing.
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    Tested this recently on a 200 mile run. I wanted to make sure that I could get 200 miles out of a tank. We were on highways only cruse control most of the way set at 67 mph. Stopped for gas at 200 miles had two bars left on the 16 F3L. Right ay 40 MPG. My wife on the RTL 2019 had to stop for gas at 180 miles. BTW this was a great usage of the ECO mode, the only time I used it.
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    The Affect of SPEED VS GAS MILEAGE ON 1330 RT

    Based on others reports and over 100,000 miles on the 1330 platform (14 RTS, 15 RT, 16 F3T) the comment of the RT acting like a barndoor as far as wind resitance is well founded.

    We have many trips on US 50 east of here to visit relatives in Kansas and other than occasional small towns we can set the cruise at 65-67 and forget it.

    When into a headwind we get less mileage per gallon, but can count on 200 miles per tank with favorable conditions, and the wifes F3T always uses a tenth of a gallon less when we fuel in Lamar or wherever. I run with the windshield almost down, and the terrain is quite flat, with altitude at Pueblo at 5000 ft and Western KS 3000 to 2500 ft at the end or our 300 mile run each way. YMMVDSCN2821.jpg My RPM and speed is now correct within 1 mph to GPS speed using the taller Altimax RT43 tire.
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    With my 2014 RTL and her 2015 RTL we usually hover around 38 - 40 mpg we set cruise control at 60 and take as many back roads as possible . We are leaving in 5 weeks for a Coast to Coast to Coast trip that will be around 10,000 miles and take about 2 1/2 - 3 months. I am planing on recording all fuel and expenses just for the sake of documentation for future reference and a travel journal. I know from past experience that anything over 65 really effects our mileage as we both pull trailers.
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    I hope you share some of your travel experiences and pics.. Good Luck and Safe Travels!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pirate looks at -- View Post
    Tested this recently on a 200 mile run. I wanted to make sure that I could get 200 miles out of a tank. We were on highways only cruse control most of the way set at 67 mph. Stopped for gas at 200 miles had two bars left on the 16 F3L. Right ay 40 MPG. My wife on the RTL 2019 had to stop for gas at 180 miles. BTW this was a great usage of the ECO mode, the only time I used it.
    I actually forgot there was "ECO Mode." Isn't that just the button the make the annoying warning banners go away . In reviewing the most gas used or should I say re-filled, has been about 5.2G. That would mean there is more miles in the tank. But then again 5.2G has meant 180 miles or 150 miles .... that's quite a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AeroPilot View Post
    The Affect of SPEED VS GAS MILEAGE ON 1330 RT

    Based on others reports and over 100,000 miles on the 1330 platform (14 RTS, 15 RT, 16 F3T) the comment of the RT acting like a barndoor as far as wind resitance is well founded.

    We have many trips on US 50 east of here to visit relatives in Kansas and other than occasional small towns we can set the cruise at 65-67 and forget it.

    When into a headwind we get less mileage per gallon, but can count on 200 miles per tank with favorable conditions, and the wifes F3T always uses a tenth of a gallon less when we fuel in Lamar or wherever. I run with the windshield almost down, and the terrain is quite flat, with altitude at Pueblo at 5000 ft and Western KS 3000 to 2500 ft at the end or our 300 mile run each way. YMMVDSCN2821.jpg My RPM and speed is now correct within 1 mph to GPS speed using the taller Altimax RT43 tire.
    Aero on this beast is really a study in drag. Into the wind you can feel the drag and seemingly see the fuel gauge go down. Wind at your back ... feels like the rear cases and windscreen act as sail to provide trust. As a side note - I actually live off of US 50 - near the eastern end. My son lives off of US50 about 1100 miles away - nearer to KC. I will be riding 50 out to MO later this summer.
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    Pale Spyder, Rt 30, 40, 50 are all on my bucket list and we enjoy those "blue highways". Here in the west the wind and air resistance govern our fuel economy. Growing up in the Allegheny's it was more about starts and stops, and how fast you liked to leave the stoplight- if traffic allowed. Oh, and it was uphill, both ways..
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    I like the big fuel tank, but gas mileage is not even on my radar when I am looking at new bikes.

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    I read somewhere that the first CanAm Spyder RT was out of gas at 100 miles. Just don't know what the tank size was though. And that was only a 2 cylinder engine. I have ridden hard, watched that gas tank light thingy fire up and kept on going. Next stop 7.0 gallons. I think that tenth was the filler tube. And the packing of course. Not to worry, I carry a spare gallon in the frunk in a spun aluminum gas tank. Still, when the light comes on I think you've got about 40 miles. That was my result but to be fair, I slowed from 75 to 60 when the light lit. Be a good thing for someone to test and tell.... (just a note, one trip on my BMW K1200LT, I completely ran out of gas with engine stoppage as I rolled into my garage. And that was when I bought the spare fuel cell)

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    I never owned a bike with a fuel gauge or low fuel light before I bought the Spyder. I always used the trip odometer to determine when it was time to get fuel. I will probably keep right on doing that. When the full tank gets about 200 miles on it I will be looking for fuel. Plenty of reserve left and 200 miles is a respectable distance to go without stopping.

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    I have only put gas in mine a couple of times and here is why I think it is still suspect. Yesterdays ride I topped the tank off before, pulling the nozzle out and giving it small squirts until the gas starts to bubble up around the nozzle. My miles left said 204 after that fill up. Later in the day when I filled up again I used the same technique but I could keep blippin gas into it many times as the fuel kept going in. Both times you could see the fuel level very close to the top of the hole. My miles left said 245 this time. How do you know you are accurately refueling the tank when you possibly could be off by a half a gallon on a 5 gallon sampling off data?

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    My older vehicles never had this, but now that I've been introduced to the computerized gas calculations, I must say I'm absolutely underwhelmed. They lie to you. Most by at least 1/2 MPG (U.S.). Some substantially higher. One Honda car was over 2 MPG optimistic versus hand calculated. The second aspect is the remaining miles in the tank. It must be either a static figure per fill, or slightly more accurate an estimate made from your previous average(s). Either one is a poor estimate as the gas gauge isn't the most accurate measurement on any vehicle. I'm old and crotchety, so I still use the trip odometer to gauge my distance. Gallons x absolute worst gas mileage you've ever got= range you can always go and never having to walk.
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    I'm just saying with a small tank the spyder has and the way you cannot tell if you topped it off correctly how can you be sure on the mileage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallidus Aranea View Post
    I have been called many things before but one the best was "Stat-Nazi." I have a love for data and information that can be derived from that. With that preface, I have been collection data from every fuel stop that has been made with my 2018 RTL. Trip length, total mileage, cost per gallon, gallons per fill, MPG, cost / mile, total cost. I can make all of that available if any one is truly interested. For me I see the question of how much mileage can I get per tank? What's my MPG?

    In the first 5,444 miles I can answer how it was for me. I average 33.43 MPG. In theory that means 230 miles could be possible on a tank (6.9 gallons).

    Now for the butt-in-seat-honesty. Longest gas station to gas station ryde 180 miles, 4.346 gallons, 41.41 MPG (85% highway ryding). A lot of 150-ish milers, 5.1 - 5.2 gallons, 30 - 31 MPG.

    I rarely use highways, love the back roads and love to ride pretty hard.

    Does this mileage fit your experience? What is the furthest that you have ridden on a single tank? Is that tank 7.1G + a 0.5G reserve? (Not that I am pushing it).

    Just thought I'd share before I start my treks across this great country via the secondary highways .... before the Eisenhower Interstate System (you know the blue and red signs you're all familiar with )
    I can usually get around 250 miles/tank on my '16 F3L when we are traveling on highways with limited stop and go stuff. I have the 7g tank and my hubby rides a '17 HD S treet Glide Special with a 6g tank. we travel just about the same distance on a tank when we are on a trip. I will say that when we are on US highways with limits around 50-60 mph I can go further.. not much but a little before my low fuel light comes on. We rode down to Key West last spring and while going through the Carolinas on 95 we pushed the speeds up to 80-85 mph for a while. We both noticed that our gas gauges started to drop like stones!! so we slowed down (for a while )
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeffandLori View Post
    I'm just saying with a small tank the spyder has and the way you cannot tell if you topped it off correctly how can you be sure on the mileage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pallidus Aranea View Post
    I have been called many things before but one the best was "Stat-Nazi." I have a love for data and information that can be derived from that. With that preface, I have been collection data from every fuel stop that has been made with my 2018 RTL. Trip length, total mileage, cost per gallon, gallons per fill, MPG, cost / mile, total cost. I can make all of that available if any one is truly interested. For me I see the question of how much mileage can I get per tank? What's my MPG?
    You want numbers? Check out this thread from 2017. It's 26,000 miles of real numbers about mileage. As far as distance between fillups, bladder capacity, butt tolerance, and stomach growls, are the primary controlling factors!

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    For anything than the sixth gear (which act as overdrive) I like to drive my F3S between 2000 to 3500rpm and shift above that.

    But lately I get the feeling mpg gets better keeping it above 3000-4000rpm...

    Could this be right? Or is it just my imagination?

    Average mpg is at 34.85mpg.

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