From everything I've read about the DESS module ( and I read every post with a complaint ) no-one has ever offered this info ….. The main screen will inform you if it isn't working ( orange screen of death )…. the bike won't start - there are temporary fixes that will work, but once the Module has indicted the CODE , it' is on the way to complete failure ….. Over the years the DESS Module was really a Non-issue ( from 08 to 13 ) in 14 some IDIOT engineer had too much time on their hands and decided to FIX it ….. He failed badly and that's when the modules became a Problem ….. Starting in 2017 forward the Modules have become less of an issue …. Possibly they finally got it tweeked or the Quality control from the Module makers got better. Starting in 2014 when the issue started not all Modules were failing, however it they did start to fail at an alarming rate..... I doubt yours is a problem ….. good luck …. Mike
This is will help: look at D.E.S.S. KEY CODE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!! thread started on 8/13/2015 ( I started the thread Replies 734 Views 147,390) I posted some very helpful suggestions/ and ideas ( I have a 2014 RTS-SE6, I have the D.E.S.S. Module replaced twice, and the switch replaced once, these were taken care of under the manufacture warranty. Since then I have not had the D.E.S.S. error code). What year is your spyder? Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Insert key and turn on.
Listen for the fuel pump to run for a couple seconds. No sound it may be the DESS, but there are many other possible causes. If it does run. The DESS and key are good.
No sound from pump. Watch the display for about a minute. If "BAD KEY' scrolls across the screen. Then disappear. If so the key or DESS is bad.
Insert key and turn on.
Listen for the fuel pump to run for a couple seconds. No sound it may be the DESS, but there are many other possible causes. If it does run. The DESS and key are good.
No sound from pump. Watch the display for about a minute. If "BAD KEY' scrolls across the screen. Then disappear. If so the key or DESS is bad.
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
Sorry Deanna but the OP has a different gauge cluster and different DESS. So it will not look like that.
Ok, Thanks for letting me know.
What does the gauge cluster look like on a 09 gs se 5?
Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock
I’ve just been told by a dealer mechanic the DESS problem comes from interference from the radio antenna. I had this issue two years ago but it went away after about an hour. They added some thicker iron shield in the DESS unit as an attempt to reduce this interference. I have had a couple of momentary orange DESS screens but it went away on the second attempt. I also have a 2014 RT-S SE6. I broke the original antenna off (garage door) and have replaced with a shorty.
Joe
Thanks to all. I checked for codes. Said no active code. Start button does not work. Check the whole starting system everything checks out good. Turn key on hit mode button jump the relay yellow/red removed terminal to ground it will start. Any ideals with the start button. Thanks.
I’ve just been told by a dealer mechanic the DESS problem comes from interference from the radio antenna. I had this issue two years ago but it went away after about an hour. They added some thicker iron shield in the DESS unit as an attempt to reduce this interference. I have had a couple of momentary orange DESS screens but it went away on the second attempt. I also have a 2014 RT-S SE6. I broke the original antenna off (garage door) and have replaced with a shorty.
Joe
If I understand what you just said ( and I think I do )- What that Tech said to you ……. This puts the BS meter OFF the scale …… #1. either the Tech is CLUELESS or is just LIEING ….. and at most dealerships this is a common problem …….
I’ve just been told by a dealer mechanic the DESS problem comes from interference from the radio antenna. I had this issue two years ago but it went away after about an hour. They added some thicker iron shield in the DESS unit as an attempt to reduce this interference. I have had a couple of momentary orange DESS screens but it went away on the second attempt. I also have a 2014 RT-S SE6. I broke the original antenna off (garage door) and have replaced with a shorty.
Joe
My DESS module failed ….. the Module was replaced ( under warranty ) …… they didn't do anything to or for the Antennae. ….. " Iron shield " I think that is a dubious fix …. " Lead " maybe but I doubt Iron would have any effect. ….But then the TECH claimed it was the Antenna there have been some Antenna's that were changed, but most were not ( according to posters on this forum )…. good luck with that dealership ...…………..jmho …. Mike
Thanks to all. I checked for codes. Said no active code. Start button does not work. Check the whole starting system everything checks out good. Turn key on hit mode button jump the relay yellow/red removed terminal to ground it will start. Any ideals with the start button. Thanks.
Did you accidently hit the "Kill switch"? Deanna
Current Spyder - 2023 F3 LTD Special Mineral Blue
Red LED NANO Saddlebag Marker Lights with Full Illumination
Sequential Fender LED'S (Amber/Red) with Safety Reflector
Dual Power Plate (12 V & USB ports)
Gremlin Bell
Rear Trunk Organizer (4 holders, 2 Elastic Holders)
Lamonster "Top Cuff" with adjustable drink Holder
SpyderPops Missing Guard Belt
Console Accent Trim (Carbon Fiber Domed Black)
Ultimate F3 Floorboards
Front Fairing Service Access Door Covers (Carbon Fiber Doomed Black)
Sway Bar with Links
Rolo Laser Alignment
Half Cover
A-Arm Daytime Dual Color LED Running Lights with Blinker Module
Hi-Viz DRL and Sequential Mirrors lights
Marinco 12Volt Power Receptacle with polarized leads & slide lock
Show chrome Trunk Shock